I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

[solarlottry]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Byergo-you just sound plain dumb. Just to be absolutely clear i am NOT calling you dumb just stating that your posts sound really old already. Someone who boasts about such a great collection and yet does not provide one single shred of evidence that such collection even exists is not worth even dealing with. At least the original poster posted images of the bat and COA. The only thing you have done is boast about this and that and not provide a single image or anything that suggest that you even own any of the items you talk about. Put your money (or collection) where your mouth is and post what you have. I have a 49ers collection that is worth more than your supposed HOF Bo Jackson collection and yet who knows what you really have. I have consistently posted images of 99% of my collection. For all we know you dont have a single item that you say is in this HOF collection. You are under no obligation to post images of your collection but under the circumstances you should. Every time someone asks you to post an image you have another excuse which leads us all to believe that you are really the fraud. To expect someone to fly and meet you at an airport to see these supposed items is plain ridiculous. I am in no way saying that the OP bat is the All-Star bat but if you are going to strongly refute it then gives us the evidence that does so.

[CollectGU]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Don't mind me joba, it was a random movie character reference that came to mind after reading his post about his bat.....

[nycpropain]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

If you feel you really "exposed" anything you need our head checked. As a matter of fact you have made it clear you dont want to prove yours cause you dont have to even though according to your words you have an exact match.

The only thing thats going to expose anything is if you post your exact match. Which you wont, which is odd cause your whole mission is to prove some one wrong. Which you can do with one picture which you have, and yet you dont. If that dont say it all I dont know what does.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

therealaxis, there is no other way to put this: You are a point blank liar.

I just received correspondence from the Director of the Royals Hall of Fame Museum. He assured me that your bat is being considered for inclusion in the Bo Jackson display solely because you were the first to offer it. It's inclusion is NOT to be considered a tacit approval by the Royals that it was used by Bo Jackson during the All Star Game or an attempt at authentication in any manner.

Exact cut and paste from the email:

"There have been several people who have reached out to us with Bo related artifacts and our goal was to include as many of the best we could find. As you know many items are tough to authenticate but I’ve tried to contact all the folks who have collected items that can at least be somewhat authenticated to have been part of Bo’s career in Kansas City – that is why I’ve reached out to you. There does seem to be differing thoughts on the All-Star Game related bats – a dispute we have no expertise in adjudicating. We can offer no stamp of approval for an artifact we did not collect ourselves. There are folks in the business of such authentication with expertise that we do not have.

In the case of the Bo Jackson exhibit the goal has been to include items from each of the collectors we have reached out to in the process. There is a gentlemen that contacted us quite sometime ago, before we had details of a potential Bo Jackson exhibit, offering to loan a Louisville Slugger from the lot made for Bo related to the 1989 All-Star Game. The authentication of these All-Star Game bats as far as whether they were actually used in the game itself – or another game after the night in Anaheim seems hard to discern. We are not the stamp of approval that any bat was or was not used in the 1989 All-Star Game. The reason we reached out to see if this loan offer still stood was because it was the first offered to be part of the then potential future exhibit."


therealaxis, everything you stated is a lie. The Royals did not conduct extensive research on the bat. I have NOT been in contact with the Royals for a year (my first ever correspondence with them was on Jan 28, 2011), and YES they are looking at some of my other high end Bo Jackson items that are more than worthy of inclusion in the RHOF, such as his 1986 home pre-rookie debut jersey video and photo matched mutiple times and the jersey Bo wore to hit his 1st HR, the longest in the history of the stadium, among multiple other items. In fact the Director is planning a trip to visit me to review the items soon. While I mentioned that I would be less than amused to see therealaxis's bat included and I felt that Royals fans would not appreciate being duped with a non-genuine item, I'm not going to withhold allowing them to borrow any of my Bo Jackson items for the exhibit which they would like to include.



therealaxis--you are no longer worthy of spending my time on. My intention here was to protect the integrity of my All Star bat and expose you as a liar and a fraud, so mission accomplished.

I think you are unfair to slam him so much. He has a bat authenticated by the hobby's leading bat authenticator. He has posted pictures, even the COA and all you do is make claims about what you have. What is the difference between discussing an item and showing pics of it? By mentioning you have it you take the same risk as posting pics. Some forum members have some very expensive stuff. Quite a few collections including my own are objectively valued at well over $100,000. Yet there is no rash of robberies. Has any member ever had an item stolen after posting about it on the forum? If you have please share your story.

[therealaxis]

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I have not lied about one thing during all my posts in this thread I have tried to be as honest and upfront as possible.Everything I said in my last post came directly from the mouth of the royals not me.Although your intention "was to protect the integrity of my All Star bat and expose me as a liar and a fraud" you have only completed the opposite.I do not think the royals would allow any item to be place in there hall of fame without doing research on the the piece.By the way the term "extinsive" research did not come from my mouth incase you think I am hyping up my talk with jill.I will contact the museum staff tommarow and make sure they get a chance to read this thread to get a gauge for how you conduct yourself.Did you send the photos of your bat to the RHOF scott??Will you privatly send photos of your bat to a mod?

[Canseco44]

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I agree 100%! if nobody has stolen gameused awesome collection of manny game used bats, what makes you think someone would sneeze at your supposed Bo gamer? Like the previous post states, come on, make us all look like fools when you break out the pics of your awesome photomatched Bo Jackson 1989 game used All Star bat! Not holding my breath tho! Lol

[spartanservitto]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

This guy is driving me crazy, part of the joy in collecting is showing others your items, people appreciate seeing it. Pretty classless, downplaying someone's item with amazing provenance, and whether or not it is the home run bat, its a wonderful piece nonetheless. Back off unless you show your item, dont you want to shut us all up?

-Tony

[Canseco44]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5kRunner
Post your photomatch or go pound sand.

Plus 1. Whats the harm in letting people see it? After all your offering to let it out of your hands to have it publicly displayed. So what is the harm in posting a pic?

+3
Get the he'll outta here. Do you even own a Bo Jackson All Star bat? If I had one I couldn't wait to get my rear on this forum and show everyone! I say show Or go. Match or not, I would really love to see another Bo gamer!

[byergo]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

therealaxis, there is no other way to put this: You are a point blank liar.

I just received correspondence from the Director of the Royals Hall of Fame Museum. He assured me that your bat is being considered for inclusion in the Bo Jackson display solely because you were the first to offer it. It's inclusion is NOT to be considered a tacit approval by the Royals that it was used by Bo Jackson during the All Star Game or an attempt at authentication in any manner.

Exact cut and paste from the email:

"There have been several people who have reached out to us with Bo related artifacts and our goal was to include as many of the best we could find. As you know many items are tough to authenticate but I’ve tried to contact all the folks who have collected items that can at least be somewhat authenticated to have been part of Bo’s career in Kansas City – that is why I’ve reached out to you. There does seem to be differing thoughts on the All-Star Game related bats – a dispute we have no expertise in adjudicating. We can offer no stamp of approval for an artifact we did not collect ourselves. There are folks in the business of such authentication with expertise that we do not have.

In the case of the Bo Jackson exhibit the goal has been to include items from each of the collectors we have reached out to in the process. There is a gentlemen that contacted us quite sometime ago, before we had details of a potential Bo Jackson exhibit, offering to loan a Louisville Slugger from the lot made for Bo related to the 1989 All-Star Game. The authentication of these All-Star Game bats as far as whether they were actually used in the game itself – or another game after the night in Anaheim seems hard to discern. We are not the stamp of approval that any bat was or was not used in the 1989 All-Star Game. The reason we reached out to see if this loan offer still stood was because it was the first offered to be part of the then potential future exhibit."


therealaxis, everything you stated is a lie. The Royals did not conduct extensive research on the bat. I have NOT been in contact with the Royals for a year (my first ever correspondence with them was on Jan 28, 2011), and YES they are looking at some of my other high end Bo Jackson items that are more than worthy of inclusion in the RHOF, such as his 1986 home pre-rookie debut jersey video and photo matched mutiple times and the jersey Bo wore to hit his 1st HR, the longest in the history of the stadium, among multiple other items. In fact the Director is planning a trip to visit me to review the items soon. While I mentioned that I would be less than amused to see therealaxis's bat included and I felt that Royals fans would not appreciate being duped with a non-genuine item, I'm not going to withhold allowing them to borrow any of my Bo Jackson items for the exhibit which they would like to include.



therealaxis--you are no longer worthy of spending my time on. My intention here was to protect the integrity of my All Star bat and expose you as a liar and a fraud, so mission accomplished.

[therealaxis]

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Sorry to keep bumping this thread but unfortunately there's no edit button.I just got off the phone with Jill from the Royals.It seems that they have been talking with Scott for almost a year now and have come to the same conclusion as us.She assured me that they will not nor have not ever been interested in putting Scotts items in the museum.Scott I would love to see the email conversations with the royals stating that you may be loaning them items for the Bo show case.They made me aware that after extensive research they found that two bats were giving to each player for use in the all star and world series games during 1989 and that in there opinion my bat is defiantly one of the two.The truth always comes to the light and I will be dropping my bat off for display Monday morning at the stadium and will "POST" pics when they get it set up.

[therealaxis]

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After reading your post again Scott I would also like to ask after looking at numerous pictures of my bat which photo gave you the idea the pine tar goes all the way up to the center brand.I think if you take a look again you will notice that it does not even come close.My bat matches all characteristics of the home run bat in the photos I gathered from the All Star game from the tape to the tar.I would also like to know who you spoke to at the Royals becaus last time I spoke to them was Monday and they made me aware that no one was going to be in the office until wendsday???I can meet you at the.stadium today if you would like I for sake of the forum would like to get this whole situation behind me.Also you mentioned it was your "educated" opinion that my bat is a forgery...are you kidding me....what exactly makes you so educated on the subject.I can gurantee as well as john that my bat is far from a fake,how can you even associate that word with my bat with no basis.I am going to contact zane bats and offer to pay him for photos of the bat he sold scott. I will continue to keep everyone posted on my findings.

[sylbry]

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It is both foolish to assume that a red ball mark was left by the homer which was done with the first swing of the bat. It is also foolish to believe that Bo never again used the All Star Bats after the game was over.

[chicagoglen]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5kRunner
Post your photomatch or go pound sand.

Plus 1. Whats the harm in letting people see it? After all your offering to let it out of your hands to have it publicly displayed. So what is the harm in posting a pic?

+2

This guy takes the cake. Show your bat already or disappear.

All,

Just an FYI

I have Ty Cobbs full uniform from his first game ever as a pro. I have photo matched it perfectly. I will not show you pictures of it for fear of being stolen but just know I do have it.

That is all.

Thank you.

[nycpropain]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

To the Royals rep who will be seeing this, we apologize for the immature act by this bitter member who contacted you.

He likes to talk but behind that talk is zero proof. He says he has an exact photomatch, let me explain what this is. A photomatch is when a photograph EXACTLY matches the item in question, now some like to pass of style matches off as photo matches. What is a style match? Thats when the brand (Louisville in this case) is right but there are no markings to distinguish the item to the photograph or film.

A photo match would have to have an exact marking on the bat that matches up with the item. This could be a loose piece of tape, wood pattern, pine tar spot or even some markings from a ball. If the bitter member who contacted you does not provide this do what others have, ignore him. He is just talking and very well may THINK he has the bat, but until he proves something he has nothing but a regular bat. Sorry you had to deal with this guy, and know therealaxis is the real deal.

[therealaxis]

Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

Wow I just got home and read this post and I can not believe you Scott you are a true piece of work.I will be contacting the royals as well tomorrow and pointing them to this thread as well as putting them in touch with john from PSA to hear his opinion on this matter.The reason that you will not post photos is because there simply is no solid evidence to backup your claim aside from the fact that supposedly your bat has red ball marks which has still yet to be verified.The fact that you bring up regarding the pine tar application on my bat makes compleatly no sense my bat was likley to have been used after the all star game as well which my letter states which would coincide with the heavy amount of use on my bat as well as the tar application.The second thing I find puzzling is where are your matches from because I have every picture and video you claimed to match your bat with and the technology just make it impossible to find a conclusive match aside from a style math which my bat is a great example of.The fact that you feel the need attack me in every post I make and in even ventures out side of this forum is tasteless and shows a complete lack of regard especially being that you wont post one photo.There are two ways I am willing to moove from here we can meet at the stadium this week and let the director decide from there or you can send your photos plus match privately to the mods like I suggested in a earlier post!

I also want to add after reading some of your prior posts I'm amazed this is coming from the same guy that said you would feel perfectly comfortable buying a scoreboard Bo jersey as a true gamer hope you don't plan on lending that to the Royals as well!