I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

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  • byergo
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    Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

    therealaxis, your bat was not only NOT used in the All Star Game, I don't believe it was ever used by Bo Jackson period.

    In my opinion the bat is a bad fake made by someone not smart enough to use a real 1989 All Star Game ball. Wishing it was something other than it is doesn't make it so. The PSA/DNA authenticator's letter didn't have any confidence that your bat was used in the 1989 All Star Game either, did he? Did you actually read the letter before making your boastful comments that aren't supported by the facts?

    During the 1989 All Star Game, simultaneously Nike kicked off the "Bo Knows" shoe campaign. Immediately following the game Bo was the most popular and photographed athlete in the country, yet no evidence exists of Bo having ever used a block "LOUISVILLE" 1989 All Star bat during the regular season. It's because he didn't, and your bat with it's blue regular season ball marks is a fraud.

    I'll step it up a notch with a challenge. I have a crisp $50 bill for the first person who can post a legit image of Bo Jackson using one of the special block lettered reverse "LOUISVILLE" 1989 All Star Game Louisville Slugger J93 bats during a regular season game.

    Consider it a favor from me to you, since your bat wasn't used in the All Star Game at least you'll know your bat isn't a worthless fake if someone can substantiate its regular season use. But I'm not holding my breath!

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  • therealaxis
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    Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

    Originally posted by CollectGU
    Can we get an update on this? Did you receive the video and were you able to find anything conclusive?

    Thnaks,
    Dave
    I did intact get the video back and although my bat is a perfect style match there is no 100 pecent conclusive angles or shots from the 89 all star game footage which also makes me wonder how Scott video matched his bat to the game?Another interesting piece of info I did find was that out of all four at bats if I remember correctly Bo only made contact with the ball 3 times I believe I may be wrong but I know it was no more then 4 I will have to go back and double check though.In my humble opinion it is my belief I do infact own the bat used to hit the homerun and it was also used during the season after the mid summer classic.I am still searching for any conclusive photo or video evidence that I may have missed so if any one has anything that may help please feel free to contact me at Kansascitysportszone@gmail.com

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  • CollectGU
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    Originally posted by therealaxis
    My bat does not have Bo written on the top nor the bottom only the AMI bat has that trait.I have all of the photos scott has and it is impossible to come up with an exact photo match which is the only reason john said he can not put in writing mine is the HR bat,he also told me he is aware of scott and does not believe he is the owner of the HR bat due to his research.I have footage of the game on its way to my house right now should be here tomorrow or sat and hopefully I can put this to rest finally!

    Can we get an update on this? Did you receive the video and were you able to find anything conclusive?

    Thnaks,
    Dave

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  • xpress34
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    Originally posted by therealaxis
    Can you please post or email me the coa I am just interested in reading it kansascitysportszone@gmail.com
    Here are scans of the LOAs from PSA/DNA. They note the Professional Model Bat made for Promotional Appearances...







    All the best -

    Smitty

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  • therealaxis
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    Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

    Originally posted by xpress34
    Dave -

    Yes, that is the HR Derby. Besides the hat, look at the background. You can see the Red Rail of the dugout and it's filled with photographers and guys in suits. In the other pictures the dugout is filled with players.

    I too would like to see photos of the other bat.

    For what it's worth, here are pictures of my AUTO'd Bo Jackson 1989 All Star Bat:







    And YES, mine has the large LOUISVILLE on the other side of the barrel as well. PSA/DNA Certified. I can post pics of the barrell back and COA if anyone is intersted.

    - Smitty
    Can you please post or email me the coa I am just interested in reading it kansascitysportszone@gmail.com

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  • rj_lucas
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    Hard to say for sure at low resolution, but the knob does not appear to have writing on the bottom.

    Even at low res though, you can clearly see the big Louisville logo is very smeared.

    I used to take my Bo replica (below) to the cages, so I can attest to how smeared that logo gets.

    If you can find a good photo or better resolution video, it should be pretty easy to match to that smear pattern, assuming the bat didn't get used much after that game.

    Rick
    rickjlucas@gmail.com
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  • xpress34
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    Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

    Originally posted by bigtruck260
    Is that bottom pick from the HR Derby in '89? Did they use regular season baseballs during the derby?

    I only say it because Bo looks like he's wearing a hat in the bottom photo.

    Dave
    Dave -

    Yes, that is the HR Derby. Besides the hat, look at the background. You can see the Red Rail of the dugout and it's filled with photographers and guys in suits. In the other pictures the dugout is filled with players.

    I too would like to see photos of the other bat.

    For what it's worth, here are pictures of my AUTO'd Bo Jackson 1989 All Star Bat:







    And YES, mine has the large LOUISVILLE on the other side of the barrel as well. PSA/DNA Certified. I can post pics of the barrell back and COA if anyone is intersted.

    - Smitty

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  • CollectGU
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    Re: I Just Got My Bo Bat Back From Psa/Dna "All Star Game Bat"

    Originally posted by byergo
    Before anyone asks again, no I'm not going to post any pics of my bat online. There are too many of these All Star Bo Jackson block "LOUISVILLE" floating around, and I am increasingly annoyed each time one of these new "Johnny come lately" bats suddenly appears out of nowhere years later and attempts to pose as the real thing. Especially when backed with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude. I generously offered a few years ago for anyone who wished to view the bat in person to have the opportunity and nobody took me up on it. "
    My only question is WHY wouldn't you share it? I'm sure you likely have it, but the stance of not sharing it and not putting it to rest gives the appearance that maybe you don't have a photo match. It's absurd to think that people who want to see your photo match must travel to you to see it in person!

    Dave

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  • sylbry
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    The 1989 All Star Game home run was hit with Bo's first swing of the bat. Assuming this very first swing left a red ball mark is foolish. The lack of a "red" mark means nothing in regards to being the actual home run bat. But I will agree with Scott, the blue marks would indicate it saw usage beyond the All Star Game, if it was used in the All Star Game at all.

    Therealaxis - I have the 1989 All Star Game on my DVR. Send me your address and I will burn all of Bo's at bats onto DVD and mail it to you. You have my email address.

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  • Rob L
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    Just my 2 cents worth (which doesn't amount to much), but 4ABs and no smearing of the red labels? Makes very little sense!

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  • vballGuy
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    Originally posted by therealaxis
    My bat does not have Bo written on the top nor the bottom only the AMI bat has that trait.I have all of the photos scott has and it is impossible to come up with an exact photo match which is the only reason john said he can not put in writing mine is the HR bat,he also told me he is aware of scott and does not believe he is the owner of the HR bat due to his research.I have footage of the game on its way to my house right now should be here tomorrow or sat and hopefully I can put this to rest finally!
    Awesome! I would say your best hope is video footage of the game. Best of luck.

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  • therealaxis
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    Originally posted by vballGuy
    Sorry to chime in here......

    But, @byergo claims to have photomatched the bat from a Topps baseball card, from a few other photos and also claimed to have video-matched it from the 1989 All-Star game. To me, it seems logical that if @byergo was able to do this, then you (@therealaxis) should do the same. I understand you got the bat from a reputable source, but even your PSA/DNA letter expresses some concerns (most notably the fact that your bat has no red marks on it).

    I say the only way to prove that your bat is or isn't the one is to try and photo-match/video-match yourself. Clearly, @byergo doesn't want to post pics of his bat, and you are most likely not going to change his mind. So why not investigate yourself? Like I said, you should be able to at least track down footage of the '89 All-Star game. (There are websites selling old 80s and 90s footage on DVD). Then you can put all of these questions to rest, instead of relying on someone who has stated many times that he will not post his evidence.

    One thing I found interesting in the previous posts that @byergo wrote in '06 was that the word "BO" was not on the handle or the top of his bat, as it is in your bat. I'm assuming this would be a relatively easy trait to pick up on footage of the game, or even from a Topps card that he claims to have photomatched his to.

    My bat does not have Bo written on the top nor the bottom only the AMI bat has that trait.I have all of the photos scott has and it is impossible to come up with an exact photo match which is the only reason john said he can not put in writing mine is the HR bat,he also told me he is aware of scott and does not believe he is the owner of the HR bat due to his research.I have footage of the game on its way to my house right now should be here tomorrow or sat and hopefully I can put this to rest finally!

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  • vballGuy
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    Originally posted by vballGuy
    Sorry to chime in here......

    But, @byergo claims to have photomatched the bat from a Topps baseball card, from a few other photos and also claimed to have video-matched it from the 1989 All-Star game. To me, it seems logical that if @byergo was able to do this, then you (@therealaxis) should do the same. I understand you got the bat from a reputable source, but even your PSA/DNA letter expresses some concerns (most notably the fact that your bat has no red marks on it).

    I say the only way to prove that your bat is or isn't the one is to try and photo-match/video-match yourself. Clearly, @byergo doesn't want to post pics of his bat, and you are most likely not going to change his mind. So why not investigate yourself? Like I said, you should be able to at least track down footage of the '89 All-Star game. (There are websites selling old 80s and 90s footage on DVD). Then you can put all of these questions to rest, instead of relying on someone who has stated many times that he will not post his evidence.

    One thing I found interesting in the previous posts that @byergo wrote in '06 was that the word "BO" was not on the handle or the top of his bat, as it is in your bat. I'm assuming this would be a relatively easy trait to pick up on footage of the game, or even from a Topps card that he claims to have photomatched his to.
    Sorry just realized that the word "BO" is not on your bat, so please ignore last portion of my message.

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  • vballGuy
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    Sorry to chime in here......

    But, @byergo claims to have photomatched the bat from a Topps baseball card, from a few other photos and also claimed to have video-matched it from the 1989 All-Star game. To me, it seems logical that if @byergo was able to do this, then you (@therealaxis) should do the same. I understand you got the bat from a reputable source, but even your PSA/DNA letter expresses some concerns (most notably the fact that your bat has no red marks on it).

    I say the only way to prove that your bat is or isn't the one is to try and photo-match/video-match yourself. Clearly, @byergo doesn't want to post pics of his bat, and you are most likely not going to change his mind. So why not investigate yourself? Like I said, you should be able to at least track down footage of the '89 All-Star game. (There are websites selling old 80s and 90s footage on DVD). Then you can put all of these questions to rest, instead of relying on someone who has stated many times that he will not post his evidence.

    One thing I found interesting in the previous posts that @byergo wrote in '06 was that the word "BO" was not on the handle or the top of his bat, as it is in your bat. I'm assuming this would be a relatively easy trait to pick up on footage of the game, or even from a Topps card that he claims to have photomatched his to.

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  • spartanservitto
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    Originally posted by therealaxis
    Wow I am glad you made your way to my post Mr.Byergo.I first of want to say I certainly did not mean to come off cocky in any way I am not sure how you got that impression so for what ever may have made you feel that way I apologize.All I wanted to do was get some answers on my bat I never said 100 percent that I owned the HR bat, I don't understand why you took it as a personal attack on you or the bat you say you have.
    Now to your post you say there has been many versions of this bat appear but the only other one I have seen that is not the wrong model number replica version is the one on AMI.I am aware that there are a number of the replica models floating around but my bat is clearly not one of them.You also mentioned that there were many things that disprove my bat from being the HR bat,other then the blue ball mark what else is there I am interested to know????
    Bo had 4 total at bats in the all star game,are you telling me that it is impossible the red ball did not leave transfer marks?Here is a soulution that will end all this now,If you claim to have video/photo matches of your bat post that evidence it should defiantly disprove any other so called as you put it...... "Johnny come lately" bats that suddenly appear out of nowhere years later and attempt to pose as the real thing with wild speculation, incorrect assumptions, and a lot of cocky attitude.Hopefully I hear back from you with at least the willingness to provide that thanks in advance!

    I agree. It sounds weird why you would want to hide it, especially here. I get the issues with privacy and maybe not allowing people to know what you have. But you've already spoke about it, a lot of people are curious. You would do the collecting community a service, including those authenticating items like JT a service but availing what is the legit home run bat. I dont see why you wouldn't want to share that.

    -Tony

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