Chicago Tribune JOSports Article

[ironmanfan]

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Looks like MEARS just lost a lot of respect and their reputation is tarnished because their statements are extremely amature.

In case you're keeping score at home, I haven't lost any respect for MEARS..

amature???

[kprst6]

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Looks like MEARS just lost a lot of respect and their reputation is tarnished because their statements are extremely amature.

[SkubeBats]

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First off I would like to say that I'm glad that this subject is brought up once again. The more times it's brought to the publics attention the more people will be warned about these six guys and their crimes.

Also I happy to se that some NFL teams are starting to cut their ties with JO SPORTS CO. It shouldn't have taken this long for them to act on this. I hope more team will follow them.

As for Rick Moore's (34swtns) comment "When you were a kid, did you ever steal money for candy or cigs? Sure you do we all did." How can you compare that to what Jo Sports did? They didn't just steal change they stole people's hard earned money and their savings. Now that's not even close to the same.

Now for what Troy Kinunen had to say "Photo matching is a very amateurish way to authenticate". I find that statement to be funny. MEARS uses photo matches in some of their own auctions for authentication purposes. Also he brings this up so you feel like your only option is for you to bring your items to him or another 3rd party for authentication.

I still for one find all these 3rd party's authentiction servies a waste of our money. Do yourself a favor a do your own homework!

[jppopma]

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Interesting read. Like Matt mentions and we hear over and over again, do your own homework and be comfortable in your purchases.

The biggest thing to remember is that not ever jersey from a rock solid seller good, and likewise not every jersey from the lowest and shadiest of sellers is bad. The broad brushing of ALL JO Sports jerseys sometimes gets out of hand. Each jersey should be able to stand on its own.

[otismalibu]

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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Company-selling-gameused-NFL-jerseys-has-been-busted-for-fraud.html

[TriplexXxSports]

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National Football Post has also picked up the story...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...raud-2442.html

404 Error Page, Eric. Link is not working.

[Eric]

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National Football Post has also picked up the story...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Company-selling-gameused-NFL-jerseys-has-been-busted-for-fraud-2442.html

[TriplexXxSports]

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Sure, but what percentage of 'collectors' know what a true photo match is? Look at some of the examples of matches, posted on this board.

What? What do you mean the numbers and lettering is wrong? Huh? They didn't use that tag until after he retired? That smudge is in the wrong spot? It's got a letter!!!!

And for those exact reasons, Otis, is why you (the collector) need to do your homework...

[kprst6]

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Every legitimate dealer should sue the writer of this article!!!

I hate people that know nothing about a subject, yet talk about it like they are an expert.

[otismalibu]

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You WILL NEVER duplicate a true photomatch. It is just humanly impossible.

Sure, but what percentage of 'collectors' know what a true photo match is? Look at some of the examples of matches, posted on this board.

What? What do you mean the numbers and lettering is wrong? Huh? They didn't use that tag until after he retired? That smudge is in the wrong spot? It's got a letter!!!!

[joelsabi]

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I ordered it during halftime of that game. I saw that by the half the jersey was destroyed, I had the game on record, so I called them up.

To take a game issued football jersey and make it look like a heavily used jersey that can be matched to photos can be done but it would take an true artist to pull it off.

If that photo matched jersey was preordered and sold right after the game, it would be impossible to fake. It also help that it was never washed. You would need time and effort and much talent and expertise for anyone to pull off a well executed fake. Never seen anyone with that much talent yet.

Continues success with your Chicago Bears collection. I hope someone else get the contract when the terms of the JO deals expires at the end of the season.

[TriplexXxSports]

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just one question: what homework did you do on your favorite jersey if you pre-ordered it?

I ordered it during halftime of that game. I saw that by the half the jersey was destroyed, I had the game on record, so I called them up.

[TriplexXxSports]

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Sure, but to replicate a true photomatch. Thats a pretty tough thing to do. And to call photomatching "amatuerish" is a pretty condescending remark, and to me, puts him in a bad light.

Correct. You WILL NEVER duplicate a true photomatch. It is just humanly impossible.

Amateurish...? That comment in itself is laughable.

[mickeymbz]

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Sure, but to replicate a true photomatch. Thats a pretty tough thing to do. And to call photomatching "amatuerish" is a pretty condescending remark, and to me, puts him in a bad light.

totally agree!! again he is not going to be for something that may negate the use of his third party authenticating business,,,, LOA's are as wholesome as used toilet paper

[TriplexXxSports]

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Matt .. I applaud you for the stance you take on your beliefs... despite knowing you will take some criticism on this forum

Look, what JO did was WRONG, and it is damning to this hobby. It sits bad with me, as I'm sure it does with everyone else. But, if you want the goods, you have to go where they are available.

I have bought stuff from AMI (we all know their history), eBay (well, that's probably the worst), and other venues w/ questionable reputations... Well, you get the idea. I mean every auction house that runs in this business has a thread started here about an item they're running in their current auction, but we continue to do business with them, ya know.

If you do your homework there are plenty of legitimate, good items out there from all of these venues, JO included.

Do I wish the Bears would cut ties with JO? Yes and No. Yes because what they did was wrong. I do not enjoy knowing there is a possibility (not saying they would, or accusing them) of them tampering with Bears jerseys, but it would eliminate that chance if they lost the contract. But I also know that that can, and does, happen anywhere (as we saw there were 5 more guys that got in trouble, not just Jarrod).

But then again, like I said in the article, Bears jerseys were tough to come by until the the Game Exclusives/ JO era came around, so if you want one where else do you get one (so easily)?

People can damn me all they want on this forum. That's fine. Anyone that wants to argue my opinion, credibility, research tactics, collection, or where I buy - feel free. All you will get is a deer eating popcorn...