All-Star Dealers reality show

[punch]

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Really blew my mind that they gave this guy his own show. He hasn't changed much in the 6 years since I worked for him at GF.

I laugh at this. Wasnt too long ago I personally taught young Michael the proper way to pack a game used jersey into a fedex box. And now hes on national TV talking Jimmie Fox bats. Only in America.

The cable ratings are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel for this time slot. I doubt the show runs its entire season...especially with the public outcry of Swamp Loggers not being renewed.

Good any good stories? Any big wins and big busts? You gotta have some good tales.

[blackbeard]

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Really blew my mind that they gave this guy his own show. He hasn't changed much in the 6 years since I worked for him at GF.

I laugh at this. Wasnt too long ago I personally taught young Michael the proper way to pack a game used jersey into a fedex box. And now hes on national TV talking Jimmie Fox bats. Only in America.

The cable ratings are pretty much at the bottom of the barrel for this time slot. I doubt the show runs its entire season...especially with the public outcry of Swamp Loggers not being renewed.

[gingi79]

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I agree.................. It is a fast paced enjoyable show that fits perfectly into our interest in sports items. Richard Russek likes to make deals and likes to make money - is that a bad thing? He is very humble and respectful when meeting people like Rodman, Worthy and Holleyfield. When he was in LA, you could see that he wanted the John Wooden Jacket very badly and was "into the hunt". Like all of us - he did not want to miss out.
The one thing for sure - at least this show does not feel the need to have a "Chumley Character" (Pawn Stars) to "entertain us".

Like many hobbies, you either "get it" or you don't. When you are a part of it, jerseys and bats and helmets are seen as part of our individual and shared history, treasured keepsakes and valuable mementos. Those not into the hobby see it as throwing away money on torn, dirty clothing and useless firewood, most of which is fake anyway. One co-worker once opined we must be "non-athletic failures hoping to associate yourself with someone successful" and couldn't understand why we would "want some other guy's shirt or broken stick especially since you'll never prove it was really worn by them anyway." (This is NOT a unique perspective from outsiders by the way. My wife's friend asked why it seemed so many so-called valuable items seem to be mailed to "some random house and then manhandled like they are unwanted hand-me-downs?"

I say all of this because this show, fair or not, is the biggest current spotlight and insight into our small hobby for both those in and out of the hobby. Any time something is done to undermine or cast a poor light upon the hobby is met with hostility from those in the hobby and seen as another reason for outsiders to poo-poo it.

Rich has a spectacular opportunity here, to show the hobby and those interested in learning about the hobby how important authentication is, ways in which things are authenticated and how respected and cherished the items are by fans. Some of his commentary and actions seem to contradict those ideals.

In reading posts on this board, most of the complaints have been geared towards Grey Flannel's handling of incoming material, taking credit for doing the homework the collector actually provided and being excited about items while ignoring red flags. Those are issues we regularly lampoon on this website, aren't they?

The public's awareness of our hobby's black eye from other auction houses and disgraced dealers unfortunately forces this show to be a proverbial icepack and a bandage. Instead, issues with their own prior authentication mistakes and outsiders who believe the cast appear arrogant and self aggrandizing "experts" if only in their own minds, makes it feel more like another sucker punch......

[jsage]

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I agree. Didn't Dave Grob write the letter for the Mets flannel at auction?
Sand-Knit, photo-match vs. style match, and chain-stitch? You can't see these terms mentioned on other shows, including "Roadshow".
I thought the bat dudes of this forum would eat up the John Taube analysis like gravy. Don't forget: reality show doesn't mean hidden-camera show.
I enjoyed the second week of this show, also.

I agree.................. It is a fast paced enjoyable show that fits perfectly into our interest in sports items. Richard Russek likes to make deals and likes to make money - is that a bad thing? He is very humble and respectful when meeting people like Rodman, Worthy and Holleyfield. When he was in LA, you could see that he wanted the John Wooden Jacket very badly and was "into the hunt". Like all of us - he did not want to miss out.
The one thing for sure - at least this show does not feel the need to have a "Chumley Character" (Pawn Stars) to "entertain us".

[both-teams-played-hard]

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I'm not trying to defend the show, but seems you guys can't be pleased by anything. Im Surprised you guys haven't said that Holyfield robe was fake.

I agree. Didn't Dave Grob write the letter for the Mets flannel at auction?
Sand-Knit, photo-match vs. style match, and chain-stitch? You can't see these terms mentioned on other shows, including "Roadshow".
I thought the bat dudes of this forum would eat up the John Taube analysis like gravy. Don't forget: reality show doesn't mean hidden-camera show.
I enjoyed the second week of this show, also.

[yanks12025]

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The Lance Armsrong was even worse. They couldn't prove he touched the jersey, let alone wore it, and still auctioned it off as a Lance Armstrong racing shirt. Why, because they say it is lol.

I think they did fine in selling it. They didn't say race worn or anything. They mentioned how it came with a letter from X and how he got it from Y party.


And to the other poster, so if a photo comes from google it can't be used as a photo match. And teams have recycled jerseys years several parts. What if it had pinstripes and matched 100%, but was two years from the tag. Would you still think its not possible.

I'm not trying to defend the show, but seems you guys can't be pleased by anything. Im Surprised you guys haven't said that Holyfield robe was fake.

[joelsabi]

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Any one notice on the foxx bat it was drilled out on the barrel. Wouldn't that have taken away from the weight?

my first impression when I saw that was it might be corked or as Uncle Vinny said "dual use"

[yanks12025]

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Any one notice on the foxx bat it was drilled out on the barrel. Wouldn't that have taken away from the weight?

[joelsabi]

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I really liked the show! I was intrigued at the efforts made in authenicating the Roger Staubach jersey. This show clearly set out to demonstrate the process and did just that. As an avid collector I have been there looking for photo match and watched victories and failures like was seen in the show. There were great teaching points made like when we think we have "the jersey" only to find it may have been something else. I am left with a feeling of the excitement of collecting and the intricacies of the forensic process that we talk about every day. Great job Rich Russek. I need more of this show!

Anthony Macchiavelli, M.D.

I have only seen Russek opening of the package of the Staubach jersey which can be viewed online.

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/all-star-dealers-season-1-roger-staubach-jersey.html

Russek initially said in the online video that it would be great to photo match the jersey to any game but I recognized it as the practice jersey that was sold on GF. Maybe that was part of the discovery that it was a practice jersey and not a college game worn jersey. Was that the finding?

Link to the sale:

http://catalog.greyflannelauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=26555

[beantown]

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I really liked the show! I was intrigued at the efforts made in authenicating the Roger Staubach jersey. This show clearly set out to demonstrate the process and did just that. As an avid collector I have been there looking for photo match and watched victories and failures like was seen in the show. There were great teaching points made like when we think we have "the jersey" only to find it may have been something else. I am left with a feeling of the excitement of collecting and the intricacies of the forensic process that we talk about every day. Great job Rich Russek. I need more of this show!

Anthony Macchiavelli, M.D.

Don't be too impressed with their efforts in authenticating the Staubach....the consignor of the jersey did ALL the home work and Grey Flannel presented it as their own...pathetic...Moreover, the word in the hobby is the the "lead authenticator", Nick Coppola, was the same individual that bid and won the jersey...conflict???

[genius]

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I didn't see the show but I must say that no matter what you think about the quality of the show or the company, it's a brilliant business move by GF to get on tv, have to give them props. If someone stumbles upon the show and the lightbulb goes off that they might have something valuable, chances are it will be sent to GF.

Did they mention the Lemieux rookie all-star jersey? It's in their photography and was supposed to be in the winter auction, I'm thinking either it was sold in private sale or was moved to a later auction so it didn't compete with the Miracle on Ice shirt at Classic.

[slab0meat]

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I can't believe I'm even saying this, but I'm not sure I can stick with this show much longer.. as I said before, I really thought I'd love it, yet it's annoying and laughable at times.

[kprst6]

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The Lance Armsrong was even worse. They couldn't prove he touched the jersey, let alone wore it, and still auctioned it off as a Lance Armstrong racing shirt. Why, because they say it is lol.

[Bigcatbaseball]

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I agree with most of the comments, the show was a real disappointment. I was hoping for more Antiques Roadshow and less Barnum & Bailey.

[Rboitano]

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Send in your common vintage jerseys and they can link it to a Hof player, even though the jersey was tagged a couple years before that future hof player was a part of the team. Oh, and photo match it off of google images. I guess this jersey was made in 1966, and the Mets just put it in storage until 1968 when then they issued it. $16K for a 1966 Dennis Ribant game used jersey. Wow