Seller backs out--what would you do?

[both-teams-played-hard]

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I would like to know if the rip was repaired on the yellow stripe on the right sleeve. If then, a photo-match. Definite style match.

[onlyalbert]

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I'm no Steelers expert. Did Greene often wear the long sleeves?

Heck, that looks like a match right there. Look at the 5 on the tight shoulder and the indent at the top point of the 5. Looks pretty close to the pic.

[otismalibu]

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I'm no Steelers expert. Did Greene often wear the long sleeves?

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Out of sheer curiosity... Genius offered in the ballpark of $20K which was in turn rejected for a higher price of $4K more. You seem confident that the jersey will be sold by auction. Just how expensive is a jersey like this one? The seller would have to get $30K at auction just to break even after the hammer fees.

I actually don't know. I think the jersey is worth 20K, 25K tops. I guess a collector bought the jersey, because it doesn't seem like a flip is worthwhile. It seems it won't be at auction, just in a personal collection.

[bigben7]

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Just my 2 cents. I looked at the photos of the Greene jersey and I am not convinced this jersey was authentic game used. The jersey did not have the Steelers exclusive tags and no year tag. I have seen a few authentic Steelers Jersey's from the 74 and 75 Season and this jersey did not look like those. I would want to see the jersey up close and also look at the wear. Early Steelers jersey's should be beat up with alot of team repairs.

[karamaxjoe]

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I obviously didn't choose my GUU handle for my IQ (Guinness = Pure Genius)! It would take a once-in-a-lifetime jersey for me to risk this kind of transaction. I truly thought the only risk was the transit of the shirt though, I didn't have any feeling that it was a scam. The two-accounts deal was because of incoming wire taxes on over $10K or something like that.

The dealer never said anything on the thread about it being for sale. We emailed back and forth off-thread, then I made a post out of frustration when he backed out of the deal and the moderators deleted the thread, I now understand why. My reason main for posting was to see if anyone had any similar experiences that ended up working out favorably, and if anyone had suggestions to track down the buyer and see if they would be willing to work out a deal given the circumstances. This would have been my Bettis Super Bowl XL, done-with-collecting moment! It is embarrassing the amount of money as I don't have that kind of money to throw around but for a legit item I would have sold off all the excess and it would have been worth it.

I'm curious how you know that the jersey actually exists? Anyone can pull pictures from old auctions and claim they own anything. The fact that the seller asked for funds to be wired makes me believe the entire situation was a phishing scam.

[cliffjmp33]

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Thanks for more insight Genius. I truly hope that you are able to find a "grail" piece in the near future.

And again my apologies for jumping the gun here as I should have reread posts before making large and incorrect assumptions that anyone was being scammed and the reasons a person was banned.

[genius]

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I obviously didn't choose my GUU handle for my IQ (Guinness = Pure Genius)! It would take a once-in-a-lifetime jersey for me to risk this kind of transaction. I truly thought the only risk was the transit of the shirt though, I didn't have any feeling that it was a scam. The two-accounts deal was because of incoming wire taxes on over $10K or something like that.

The dealer never said anything on the thread about it being for sale. We emailed back and forth off-thread, then I made a post out of frustration when he backed out of the deal and the moderators deleted the thread, I now understand why. My reason main for posting was to see if anyone had any similar experiences that ended up working out favorably, and if anyone had suggestions to track down the buyer and see if they would be willing to work out a deal given the circumstances. This would have been my Bettis Super Bowl XL, done-with-collecting moment! It is embarrassing the amount of money as I don't have that kind of money to throw around but for a legit item I would have sold off all the excess and it would have been worth it.

[slam]

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Nobody stated or even implied that he individuals were "taken" -- only that rules were circumvented and transactions like these are risky. I repeated myself when I said that the outcomes of these transactions are unknown.

Ok, in order for me to not enter into a risky transaction would anybody like to share the name of the individual.

[TNTtoys]

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someone did buy this jersey. It will surely wind up at auction.

Out of sheer curiosity... Genius offered in the ballpark of $20K which was in turn rejected for a higher price of $4K more. You seem confident that the jersey will be sold by auction. Just how expensive is a jersey like this one? The seller would have to get $30K at auction just to break even after the hammer fees.

[jppopma]

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I think your missing out on something more important here. You say the seller is in Canada and you were going to wire him the money. For your own safety never wire money to Canada especially $20,000. Google how many scams are run with that as a basis. A Greene is such a rare jersey, how do you know he even had one? Pics? Anyone can find pics online and claim they are theirs. How do you know they were his? Do you even know this member? Ever dealt with him or talked to anyone who has? Just because someone is a member does not mean they are legit, last time I checked this site does not conduct background checks to join. Asking for more money is another red flag as is two bank accounts. How do you know he sold the "jersey" and did not just cold feet on scamming you? You say hes a dealer but that means nothing everyone and his brother is a dealer these days. Most of the members of this forum are dealers in the sense that they buy stuff to resell as a profit although they don't earn their living entirely from it. I would consider myself lucky I did not get scammed and forget about it.

I was thinking the same thing when I read the original post. Refusing certain payment methods, or especially wiring money, should always be a red flag.

I'm glad also that I'm not the only one who is skeptical of some post on here with people claiming to have this this and this jersey. Some of it seems to be big show off moves -- like the kid in high school who had a Porsche, but it was always in the shop.

As for banning this member. If he is coming out and saying that he is taking offers for it, its the same as listing it for sale. If a member contact him and works out a deal offboard, then I have no issue for it. With my concerned about the scam aspect of it...I think our board is better off without this type of person. Wiring money to two different accounts just gets my cop sense tingling way too much.

[TNTtoys]

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Would anybody like to share the name of this individual so that others aren't taken.

Nobody stated or even implied that he individuals were "taken" -- only that rules were circumvented and transactions like these are risky. I repeated myself when I said that the outcomes of these transactions are unknown.

[cliffjmp33]

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BTPH, I understand and perhaps should have worded things better or used better judgement in posting a blanket statement like that. My apologies for that.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Thanks for the quick response Nick. Glad to hear he was banned.

It's just sad that there are people out there looking to take advantage of a helpful community like this for their own sinister reasons.

Reneging on a deal is bad form, but hardly sinister.
No one lost money or was ripped off.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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The seller didn't advertise this item for sale. He included his e-mail address. No
forum rules were broken.
I am sorry that this jersey didn't go to genius, because he is a true Pittsburgh fan.
Don't forget that someone did buy this jersey. It will surely wind up at auction.
If the owner of this jersey who posted photos was indeed banned, then that is complete, utter bullshit. The only thing that was shady, was not accepting Genius' original offer and terms.