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  • yanks12025
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 3118

    #61
    Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

    Well it looks like the guy was a fraud and scammer anyway. I'm sure he didn't own any of those items that supposedly got stolen.

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    • joelsabi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 3073

      #62
      Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

      Originally posted by yanks12025
      Well it looks like the guy was a fraud and scammer anyway. I'm sure he didn't own any of those items that supposedly got stolen.
      Im trying to figure that out. You can see the Kyle Drabek jersey in this ebay listing and the photos of his collection in GUU thread below






      Is he a photo/tire collector or the owner or the friend of the owner of that collection.
      Regards,
      Joel S.
      joelsabi @ gmail.com
      Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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      • sportscentury
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 2008

        #63
        Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

        Originally posted by yanks12025
        Well it looks like the guy was a fraud and scammer anyway. I'm sure he didn't own any of those items that supposedly got stolen.
        My apologies to the believers, but this had to be one of the most pathetically transparent and poorly executed shams I've seen in this hobby for quite some time.
        Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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        • frikativ54
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 3612

          #64
          Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

          Originally posted by sportscentury
          My apologies to the believers, but this had to be one of the most pathetically transparent and poorly executed shams I've seen in this hobby for quite some time.
          I'm seeing a lot of names being thrown around here - "scammer," "sham," etc. However, those posting here are offering very little concrete evidence. Where's the proof for any of this?
          Les Zukor
          bagwellgameused@gmail.com
          Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

          http://www.bagwellgameused.com
          (617) 682-0408

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          • gingi79
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 1195

            #65
            Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

            Originally posted by frikativ54
            I'm seeing a lot of names being thrown around here - "scammer," "sham," etc. However, those posting here are offering very little concrete evidence. Where's the proof for any of this?

            Come on Les, this guy isn't worth your assistance as if he is being railroaded.. He claimed his stuff was stolen. He not only received a settlement check from an insurance company on a policy that no one else seems to be able to even obtain but he did so before the police report was likely filed. Ever have a car accident that isn't cut and dry? I worked that field for years and was a Property and Casualty Broker in NY. Insurance companies drag their feet on any claim they can. In a court system where people spend months in jail for serious crimes, this "petty thief" was not only caught in a major sting operation but was charged and found guilty in court? It took over 2 years for anything to truly develop with JOSports yet some cat burglar is suddenly treated like Bernie Madoff? This isn't a TV legal drama. Plus everything he wanted to sell was returned? Then when he was called out on the additional issues with his items, he deletes his account with GUC?
            Bieksallent! My Player Collections:


            http://sami-salo.webs.com

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            • frikativ54
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 3612

              #66
              Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

              Originally posted by gingi79
              Come on Les, this guy isn't worth your assistance as if he is being railroaded.. He claimed his stuff was stolen. He not only received a settlement check from an insurance company on a policy that no one else seems to be able to even obtain but he did so before the police report was likely filed. Ever have a car accident that isn't cut and dry? I worked that field for years and was a Property and Casualty Broker in NY. Insurance companies drag their feet on any claim they can. In a court system where people spend months in jail for serious crimes, this "petty thief" was not only caught in a major sting operation but was charged and found guilty in court? It took over 2 years for anything to truly develop with JOSports yet some cat burglar is suddenly treated like Bernie Madoff? This isn't a TV legal drama. Plus everything he wanted to sell was returned? Then when he was called out on the additional issues with his items, he deletes his account with GUC?
              I don't think I'm offering Robert any assistance here. And, for the record, I, along with many, find the whole thing suspicious. However, can we really call this a scam until we have more evidence that that there was a calculated attempt to deceive?

              Does anyone - moderators included - have knowledge of an actual police report's being filed? Of the thief's being proven guilty? If this actually happened, isn't there a way to do some research? I would just like to get away from speculation and deal in the realm of facts.
              Les Zukor
              bagwellgameused@gmail.com
              Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

              http://www.bagwellgameused.com
              (617) 682-0408

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              • mickeymbz
                Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 644

                #67
                Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

                Moderator kill this thread once and for all

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                • yanks12025
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3118

                  #68
                  Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

                  Originally posted by mickeymbz
                  Moderator kill this thread once and for all
                  Why people should know about this seller and stuff.

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                  • mickeymbz
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 644

                    #69
                    Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

                    b/c that infos not comimg out.. the only one who can answer that is the original poster of this thread and he obviously aint forthcoming. to much ping pong about what his motives were and what is possible and not. its obvious the poster and whoever the ebay sellers may be are deceptive..everyone here is smart enuff to stay away,,, so why keep it going?

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                    • sportscentury
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2008

                      #70
                      Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

                      Originally posted by frikativ54
                      I'm seeing a lot of names being thrown around here - "scammer," "sham," etc. However, those posting here are offering very little concrete evidence. Where's the proof for any of this?
                      Seriously? Between the two GUU threads (the deleted one and this one), the various negative feedback comments left on his eBay seller accounts, his known aliases (I understand the count is up to three now) and the long and very detailed thread on GameUsedCollector, it seems to me, and I think to numerous others, that an overwhelming amount of on-point information has been provided. Did you take the time to read the GUC thread? I am told GUU moderators have additional information, but that is for them to post if they deem it appropriate.
                      Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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                      • admin_old

                        #71
                        Re: Stolen Phillies Collection

                        At this point we have decided to close this thread and suspend the account of the member who started it. Through an investigation of what happened, it seems apparent that there was an attempt to defraud another forum member whereby an item, after it was paid for, was never delivered and no refund given. In addition, the eBay account which sold the item was closed days following the event. Further, we were able to match the IP address of the eBay account set up to sell the supposedly stolen items and the person who started this thread and found them to be the same.

                        While we are not here to judge if there was criminal activity, the administrators of the forum do feel a responsibility to protect others within this community. Therefore, barring any additional information from the original poster that can substantiate otherwise, we are suspending the original poster's account until further notice.

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