Game Used Collecting Makes The Tabloids in Dispute over Kobe Bryant Items

[Takuleechch]

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From the article I read it sounds like A) he didn't give her the items B) she didn't demand he retrieve the items C) she didn't tell him she was going to get rid of the items

I'm just saying if it was me I would be pissed and expect to get everything back.
I think this happened to Michael Jackson before he died. And he successfully sued Juliens to stop the auction if I recall correctly

[plinvestments]

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If that wallet had at least 1.5 million in it I would like to think I could still claim it

Maybe - maybe not, from a legal point of view. The restaurant is not a bank. You have to make every effort to claim your wallet as soon as possible. You can't wait 15 years. If you're a tenant and you leave furniture in the unit, and a car in the driveway the landlord can usually sell off those items if unclaimed in 90-180 days depending on where you live. Same goes with storage units. Even the government has a statute of limitations. You have 4 years to claim a tax refund. After that, it belongs to the government. You "abandoned" your money. It seems that Kobe didn't take any reasonable measures to secure his property. Can he prove he asked mom to store them? Who paid the storage fees? Those are the questions the judge will ask. As an aside, the rings seem like gifts to his parents since they were customized for them. I don't think Kobe has any claim to them.

[Takuleechch]

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Maybe - maybe not, from a legal point of view. The restaurant is not a bank. You have to make every effort to claim your wallet as soon as possible. You can't wait 15 years. If you're a tenant and you leave furniture in the unit, and a car in the driveway the landlord can usually sell off those items if unclaimed in 90-180 days depending on where you live. Same goes with storage units. Even the government has a statute of limitations. You have 4 years to claim a tax refund. After that, it belongs to the government. You "abandoned" your money. It seems that Kobe didn't take any reasonable measures to secure his property. Can he prove he asked mom to store them? Who paid the storage fees? Those are the questions the judge will ask. As an aside, the rings seem like gifts to his parents since they were customized for them. I don't think Kobe has any claim to them.

Haha I love how you took it as 100% literal and not as an attempt to give an example. You could also point out that maybe after 5 years the restaurant may have been sold or even gone into liquidation. Then what are they supposed to do with all lost and find items? And why isn't there any I.d. In the wallet? Or what if there is a tornado that rips through and destroys the restaurant and the wallet is lost?

Haha seriously

[plinvestments]

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Haha I love how you took it as 100% literal and not as an attempt to give an example. You could also point out that maybe after 5 years the restaurant may have been sold or even gone into liquidation. Then what are they supposed to do with all lost and find items? And why isn't there any I.d. In the wallet? Or what if there is a tornado that rips through and destroys the restaurant and the wallet is lost?

Haha seriously

Of course, the restaurant needs to make an effort to return the wallet. But none of this applies in this case since Kobe knew where his stuff was. He needs to go get it, it's not on his mom to return it.

[Takuleechch]

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Of course, the restaurant needs to make an effort to return the wallet. But none of this applies in this case since Kobe knew where his stuff was. He needs to go get it, it's not on his mom to return it.

Hahahaha can you drop the restaurant? It was just an example!

[dolphanz]

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Very interested in the outcome of this story

It sucks for both parties but there's definitely a story behind the story....

[mdube16]

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This could be the start of a flood of lawsuits from people over the cards/comics their Mother threw away.

[gingi79]

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This is not a case of a restaurant or a tenant or a landlord. His MOTHER realized she could sell her son's treasured memorabilia for quick, large cash and she did it. I guess I'm just lucky enough to have a mother who has a moral compass and not an "I deserve things I didn't earn" attitude.

To me, she stole her son's stuff to buy herself something. The more that comes out on this, the less it looks like she had any right to do this. As a mother, she should be ashamed.

[MercyMe78]

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Looks like the mom said he didn't give her permission..

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9257907/kobe-bryant-says-mother-given-permission-sell-stuff

[Jags Fan Dan]

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This is not a case of a restaurant or a tenant or a landlord. His MOTHER realized she could sell her son's treasured memorabilia for quick, large cash and she did it. I guess I'm just lucky enough to have a mother who has a moral compass and not an "I deserve things I didn't earn" attitude.

To me, she stole her son's stuff to buy herself something. The more that comes out on this, the less it looks like she had any right to do this. As a mother, she should be ashamed.

I agree. My mom held onto all my old hotwheels, star wars, gi joe, transformers, he-man, etc. stuff. When I got a house of my own she asked me if I wanted it. That to me is normal behavior between a parent and child.

[Takuleechch]

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The judge just shut the auction down

[Phil316]

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You are right.

a judge issued a temporary restraining order against Goldin Auctions, prohibiting them from selling Kobe's jerseys, championship rings, trophies, and lots of other stuff until a full hearing can be held next Monday. Kobe's mom claims her son gave her the stuff outright, but Kobe says his mom is just bitter because he wouldn't buy her an expensive house. He also says she stole some of the stuff from his house.

[esquiresports]

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The TRO is more of a formality that would be expected by all parties to this action. It is designed only to maintain the status quo until the judge has an opportunity to hear from the parties. It should not suggest anything more.

[godwulf]

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Wow, this story makes me so glad that I'm not a famous pro athlete with a gazillion dollars and hordes of people clamoring to own my stuff.

Wait a minute...no it doesn't.

Anyway, one of the more interesting aspects of this story, to me, is the $1500 that Kobe's mother reportedly paid each month - for five years - to store and insure the items. Feel free to check my math, but isn't that 90 grand? I can see wanting to pay to insure the stuff, but why would you necessarily need to store it outside your home? Heck, I've got several times that amount of memorabilia packed into the walk-in closet in my master bathroom.

[KGoldin]

STATEMENT from Goldin Auctions

Please see the below. I will remind everyone that outside of attorney's comments, I will not be commenting on the case. In addition, I remind you that we have never announced a formal start or end date except for a 'June auction'. The TRO in effect lasts for 4 days, thru Monday May 13 . I appreciate your understanding of this as well as NOT calling out for me to respond when I cannot. Ken


Goldin Auctions, LLC, is taking necessary and appropriate legal action in U.S. District Court (Case No. 13-2816) to allow the business to move forward with its planned auction, including the items that are the subject of this action. The items at issue were legally obtained by Goldin Auctions after being approached by Pamela Bryant, who provided certificates of authenticity and attested in a sworn affidavit to their lawful ownership. Goldin Auctions has already issued a substantial monetary advance for these items and is only interested in proceeding with its legal right to conduct its business without further interference.

Goldin Auctions is also taking all necessary and appropriate legal action to oppose Mr. Bryant’s efforts in California to interfere with the New Jersey proceedings.

Goldin Auctions will not be offering any further comments at this time. For all other information, please refer to the filed documents in the New Jersey and California actions.


Jeffrey A. Cohen

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