May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

[joetiger83]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.

Great Bat Rich! That thing is hammered awesomeness!

[dangerzone79]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Come to think of it, the Red Sox reproduction would likely be without consent, as well, and therefore also in violation of their trademark rights.

I have a Red Sox tattoo on my wrist... do you think the Sox will drag my tattoo artist into court? No. And yes, this is a place to discuss neat pick-ups & things like that. If you wanna discuss copyrights, maybe we should start a new thread. Interesting convo.

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

So someone can't do a painting of Ted Williams holding an H&B bat, or a painting of a Red Sox logo and give it to someone as a gift without fear of being prosecuted by either company? Even if that may be accurate, who cares? The artist wouldn't care about a cease & desist anyways because these are a complete one-off. I appreciate your point & concern, but I'm not worried. The Sox know how to get a hold of me if they have a problem.

For the H&B part of it, that's not the point. For the Red Sox one, I believe they could be prosecuted, but the Red Sox would be unlikely to do so unless the individual started making more than their attorney fees would be in pursuing the case.

Back to the H&B issue. The problem is that the image of DiMaggio kissing the bat is from the H&B archives. H&B (and possibly the photographer, as well) have a right to claim theft of intellectual property.

And is this the place to talk about copyright laws? I thought i was a place to discuss cool pickups, not bs nonfactors.

Theft is theft. Stealing someone's work and profiting from it would be no different than stealing someone's collection and selling it. I don't think it's a "bs nonfactor," as you've chosen to name it.

[calmanagement]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.

Great Rookie gamer Rich!

[Sotystl]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.

These are incredible.

And is this the place to talk about copyright laws? I thought i was a place to discuss cool pickups, not bs nonfactors.

[GoTigers]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

That's incorrect... You think Campbell's sued Andy Warhol? Artists can do what they want. Daniel Moore has been sued by Alabama for painting "greatest moments" for years, with logos etc. and selling prints. The university keeps loosing and looking stupid.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabamas_embarrassing_lawsuit.html

[dangerzone79]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Come to think of it, the Red Sox reproduction would likely be without consent, as well, and therefore also in violation of their trademark rights.

So someone can't do a painting of Ted Williams holding an H&B bat, or a painting of a Red Sox logo and give it to someone as a gift without fear of being prosecuted by either company? Even if that may be accurate, who cares? The artist wouldn't care about a cease & desist anyways because these are a complete one-off. I appreciate your point & concern, but I'm not worried. The Sox know how to get a hold of me if they have a problem.

[Phil316]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.

Sweet kicks !

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Come to think of it, the Red Sox reproduction would likely be without consent, as well, and therefore also in violation of their trademark rights.

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

The artist name is Rob St Clair. Here's a link to his Facebook page if anyone is interested.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rob-StClair/111575928872263

And they're aren't illegal shoes. It's a commissioned piece of artwork. They're not sold in stores. The guy does it as a hobby from what I gather. They're 100% done with Sharpie. That's his whole gimmick.

Unless Mr St Clair received permission from Hillerich & Bradsby, at least one of the images used for the shoes was done so in violation of copyright law. I'd assume none of the images used were done with permission of the copyright owners, so I sustain that they're illegal. I'm not saying the shoes themselves are knockoffs or something similar. I'm saying that the use of copyrighted property without permission of the copyright owner would be deemed illegal. It's a good thing he hasn't chosen to do any images of "Prince" or "The Artist" or "'The Artist,' formerly known as 'Prince'" -- I'm pretty sure he'd be receiving cease and desist notices, in that case.

Yes, I think the shoes look cool, and if that was done all in Sharpie (the fine point, not the ultra fine) pens, then that's even cooler. However, coolness and cache aside, the issue of copyright remains, regardless.

[Dach0sen0ne]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.

[dangerzone79]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

The artist name is Rob St Clair. Here's a link to his Facebook page if anyone is interested.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rob-StClair/111575928872263

And they're aren't illegal shoes. It's a commissioned piece of artwork. They're not sold in stores. The guy does it as a hobby from what I gather. They're 100% done with Sharpie. That's his whole gimmick.

[DJaeger22]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Dangerzone, those shoes look amazing! Whoever does them has an amazing talent. Who is the artist that does them?

[danesei@yahoo.com]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.

Interesting shoes. I'm not even sure of "how" that would be done with Sharpie pens, due to the shading. Looks more like airbrush, IMO. Either way, I would think they're illegal, since the images used are copyrighted.

[dangerzone79]

Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.