Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

[64SHEA]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

While I really, really hate to agree with anything Mr. Roady says, I have to in this situation. There is a reason coffee cups have to say "Caution Hot!".

Minus the name calling.

[Juan Gris]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

johnsontravis@ymail.com, I can't tell if it's intentional or not but, outside of your first post in this thread, every subsequent post of yours has been argumentative with another member, which could be construed by some as trolling.

I stated my view and gave all my reasons, if you still disagree that is fine. Though calling me a troll just because I'm not totally defending the collector is just silly. I felt I did it in an acceptable manner and didn't attack anyone.

This comes off as an attack on the OP.

Did you not like that Even Longoria jersey much? Didn't you just buy that a week ago...unloading that less than a week after getting it jeez...

[Roady]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

While I really, really hate to agree with anything Mr. Roady says, I have to in this situation. There is a reason coffee cups have to say "Caution Hot!".

I appreciate that, I think.

[jake33]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

The way ebay operates, is that even if a seller states no returns, you can still return it. They have it set to side with buyers, which in the grand scheme makes sense to protect themselves, but they are forcing independent sellers to function closer to a retail store, which takes returns for no real reason/complaint most times.

The point I was trying to make is that a product sold for one purpose, should not be held accountable when used outside of it's intended purpose.

In a pro wrestling match, when a guy uses a garbage can or a stapler, is the manufacturer fully responsible for "causing" injury in that instance?

Now, a faulty leaky garbage can that may have caused damage by leaking out dangerous contents, is a different story.

The definition of MEMORABILIA is

1. mementos; souvenirs.
2. matters or events worthy to be remembered; points worthy of note.

While it does not explicitly state that items should not be used or worn for practical use. The integrity of the memento in it's truest form is in y opinion somewhat compromised when it is used in a way that tarnishes how it was originally supposed to be remembered.

[jake33]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

I would also argue, that is also along these ridiculous lines - if someone would complain that a bobblehead was not strong enough to hold a door open so, it could be a doorstop, and because of that the buyer is upset and/or wants a return.

[johnsontravis@ymail.com]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

I would also argue, that is also along these ridiculous lines - if someone would complain that a bobblehead was not strong enough to hold a door open so, it could be a doorstop, and because of that the buyer is upset and/or wants a return.

I get what you are saying and it is another example of the issues with EBay. When the seller and buyer both are upset and each side has some kind of argument the buyer will always win.

All in all I'm still a little confused how much use these could show where he was that upset. He sounds like the kind of guy who buys a used shirt and gives negative feedback because there was a little stain.

Maybe this guy just likes leaving negative feedback to make people mad and ruining their feedback score.

[jake33]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

The use that it showed was very minor (especially since they were worn for only 1 game), if my memory is right, the dirt, is less than the space of a dollar bill.

[PAC]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

I don't mind buyers returning items for silly reasons, even though I posted awesome photos and a crystal clear description. Whatever, no big deal, I'll eat the shipping cost and sell it to someone else.

But an UNJUSTIFIED negative pisses me the hell off, especially when it ruins my previously 100% positive feedback.

[beachpetrol]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

If the buyer is unwilling to revise the negative feedback and ebay will not remove it, I suggest you reply to the negative feedback and explain the situation in 80 characters or less. You may also want to include the ebay buyers ID in the reply so that other sellers who read your feedback, know who this punk is and can block them from buying their items.

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

I don't mind buyers returning items for silly reasons, even though I posted awesome photos and a crystal clear description. Whatever, no big deal, I'll eat the shipping cost and sell it to someone else.

But an UNJUSTIFIED negative pisses me the hell off, especially when it ruins my previously 100% positive feedback.

Do you feel this seller posted awesome photos and a crystal clear description here? "Game used pants with an open bottom" doesn't say much to me.

[Roady]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

The buyer is obviously an imbecile and some of you are making too many excuses for his foolishness.

Lets look at the category these pants are listed under.........
Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop>Game Used Memorabilia>Baseball-MLB>Jerseys

Clue #1

Now lets look at the description of the pants earlywynnfan so graciously posted.............
Game used Alcides Escobar pants with open bottom

What's this? earlywynnfan left out ALCIDES ESCOBAR in the description. Now why would you do that earlywynnfan?

Clue #2

The buyer is a moron and defending the buyer for his ignorance is pathetic.

[Roady]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

Do you feel this seller posted awesome photos and a crystal clear description here? "Game used pants with an open bottom" doesn't say much to me.

Just to be clear in my above post.

The description on the auction is: Game used Alcides Escobar pants with open bottom

Not just "Game used pants with an open bottom"

I guess the description you posted doesn't say much to you earlywynnfan. That is because you left out the most important part of it.

When you post the real description ti says a lot more. It says these pants were used by a MLB player and therefore must be used.

[Roady]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

Does anyone else see the problem with some of your responses?

You turn on a fellow board member, a fellow collector mind you, who did nothing wrong to warrant a negative. And you take up for a stranger with reading comprehension problems.

[johnsontravis@ymail.com]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

Jake I searched up the EBay ID and it came back as not existing. Are you sure that you posted it exactly right? Are you able to give a link to the buyers account?

Also Roady while the info in the description and pictures might have been acceptable for a collector it isn't for anyone else. Unluckily for Jake a non collector came by and won the auction. I wouldn't call either party a fool. Really it is just a bad situation which could have been avoided by each party, things like this happen. You can think the buyer is dumb, but all you are proving is how you fail to look at the big picture and only think of it from a collectors perspective.

You won't get your 100% back but if you do reply to the negative feedback with what happened I don't think the negative feedback will scare any future buyers.

[Roady]

Re: Got negtive feedback from item showing "too much" game use!

Also Roady while the info in the description and pictures might have been acceptable for a collector it isn't for anyone else. Unluckily for Jake a non collector came by and won the auction. I wouldn't call either party a fool. Really it is just a bad situation which could have been avoided by each party, things like this happen. You can think the buyer is dumb, but all you are proving is how you fail to look at the big picture and only think of it from a collectors perspective.

Just a sign of the times we live in. Someone can't, or is too lazy to , add up 1+1 and there is no shortage of people who are willing to make excuses for them.

Only an idiot, collector or not, would read that auction and not think the pants are GAME USED BY A MLB PLAYER.

You state with authority....."the description and pictures might have been acceptable for a collector it isn't for anyone else."
Really? That's a fact?
I state that the buyer is either a moron or can't read english or is just a jerk.
Anyone who sees the category and the description should be able to add up 1+1 and know the answer.
And if the buyer is too stupid to understand it then that is on them.

1. The seller listed it in the correct category.
2. The seller's description, the real one not the one some of you want to post, is very clear the pants are game used by a MLB player.
3. The buyer didn't ask any questions before bidding.

The seller did nothing wrong and yet some of you are trying really hard to make it seem like he did.