Players with over priced gamers

[Roady]

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My post was not to belittle anyone's collecting choice.
I just wanted to make sure people know he took them during his entire career. And yes, my greed comment was my opinion.
I don't care what anyone else collects.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/7900244/

"According to McGwire's statement, his usage of PEDs spanned a large portion of his career, which included parts or all of 16 seasons."

[Roady]

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Actually McGwire admitted to using PED's throughout his major league career all the way back to his rookie season.
It had nothing to do with an injury. It had to do with greed.

[skyking26]

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Sorry to burst your bubble but the REALITY is many people who pay good money for rare items of guys that did juice do not give 2 sh#ts whether that player is/ will get into in the hall of fame . So since an item is rare for that player , just because he did roids that item can't go for premium money ??

Your comment is uneducated and bad generalization of the way prices are determined. I've collected mcgwire since 89'. Never mattered to me whether he ever got in. Nor would I ever care of what was in his body. Rare items of a player will always be desired regardless. Those "tainted" guys still have MANY rabid collectors that still will pay for Rare premium item.

I'd have to agree with Panthrotc. I still collect McGwire and lost his A's helmet in a recent auction - and somebody paid ALOT for that helmet.

On the rare occasion a Dave Kingman GU item comes to auction and it is somewhat rare or unusual... I meet with a battle from both Kingman collectors and Mets/Cubs collectors. It doesn't matter to me whether either gets in the Hall. They were prolific sluggers I followed during my lifetime and I collect them to this day. Adam Dunn included as a recent example.

On a side; it was disappointing when Mac spoke of his involvement with steroids. My take was always that following 2 seasons of foot issues and facing early retirement because of; he found that steroids (legal what he took then) got him to heal and continue to play. He was a born HR hitter whether he was on them or not. Did his items decrease in value after admission? Yep. Would I have sold if I'd seen that coming? Nope.

People collect because they like what they collect. If the individual is collecting because they are looking at HOF potential - they are investors; not collectors per say.

[panthrotc]

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All three are cheaters and NEVER will get in the hall of fame. So yes it's supid for their items to go for that much.

Sorry to burst your bubble but the REALITY is many people who pay good money for rare items of guys that did juice do not give 2 sh#ts whether that player is/ will get into in the hall of fame . So since an item is rare for that player , just because he did roids that item can't go for premium money ??

Your comment is uneducated and bad generalization of the way prices are determined. I've collected mcgwire since 89'. Never mattered to me whether he ever got in. Nor would I ever care of what was in his body. Rare items of a player will always be desired regardless. Those "tainted" guys still have MANY rabid collectors that still will pay for Rare premium item.

[bd300]

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I agree with Jeter. I can't believe the cost of his autograph through Steiner. I don't understand why the price is so high and there is a lot signed by him on the market. I imagine the price will come down as people lose interest in him and the demand goes down.

[carbonrosa]

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I'm a huge Derek Jeter fan, but I can't believe his last MLB out baseball sold for $24,000 on MLB auctions.

[Jags Fan Dan]

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Im going with my guy Jose Abreu. He was pretty amazing this year but the fact that he is 27 he will more than likely not be breaking any all time records. His stuff isnt out there yet but the jerseys on mlb auctions went for over 7K as did the bats. On ebay there are a couple of bats one was at 7K and the other is over 3K. Hes an awesome hitter but 1 year doesnt justify those prices.

Yep, that is a good example. Wouldn't 7k get you a Pete Rose game used bat?

[helf35]

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Im going with my guy Jose Abreu. He was pretty amazing this year but the fact that he is 27 he will more than likely not be breaking any all time records. His stuff isnt out there yet but the jerseys on mlb auctions went for over 7K as did the bats. On ebay there are a couple of bats one was at 7K and the other is over 3K. Hes an awesome hitter but 1 year doesnt justify those prices.

[BaseballNutz]

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MadBum's jersey went for $20,810. I'm jealous of the winner. That's a super nice World Series piece at any price from a pitcher who has elevated himself to mythical Greek God status in the postseason.

Dave

[BaseballNutz]

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Welcome to the forum Dave. While I agree the current price for the Bumgarner jersey is very pricey, I also feel it's hard to put a value on such a unique gamer. World Series Game 1 jersey worn by the winning pitcher who also went on to win the WS MVP, a true 1 of 1. I can stomach this price more than I can stomach someone paying a 1K for a Javy Baez gamer. Don't get me wrong I hope his gamers turn out to be this valuable and then some. Anyways, welcome aboard!

Thanks Wrigley2010,

I hear you and that's what makes it so painful. He's already viewed as one of the games best post-season players ever, surpassing Christy Mathewson in categories many felt would never be matched.

With 2:45 (hours) to go, the jersey has breached the $19,000 level. That's simply amazing for a current day 25 year old.

Dave

[Wrigley2010]

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Hi forum,

I'm new here and this is my first post. My pick would be Madison Bumgarner. I am a Giants fan and I have no idea if you guys have seen what's happened to his items since this last world series, but his stuff is almost untouchable now.

Please don't get me wrong, I love MadBum. But as a fan, I won't be able to buy his stuff because of the high prices current stars go for.

If you want an example, check this out:

http://auctions.mlb.com/iSynApp/auct...st1=giants&&qt[0].type=fieldmatch&qt[0].name=panname_teamname_s&qt[0].value1=giants

At time of this posting, there are two days to go in this auction. The jersey has 55 bids and sits at $13,510. If I bought that for myself for Christmas, my wife would file for immediate divorce!

I look forward to participating on this forum and sharing stories. Thanks and Happy Holidays everyone.

Dave Fall

Welcome to the forum Dave. While I agree the current price for the Bumgarner jersey is very pricey, I also feel it's hard to put a value on such a unique gamer. World Series Game 1 jersey worn by the winning pitcher who also went on to win the WS MVP, a true 1 of 1. I can stomach this price more than I can stomach someone paying a 1K for a Javy Baez gamer. Don't get me wrong I hope his gamers turn out to be this valuable and then some. Anyways, welcome aboard!

[BaseballNutz]

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Hi forum,

I'm new here and this is my first post. My pick would be Madison Bumgarner. I am a Giants fan and I have no idea if you guys have seen what's happened to his items since this last world series, but his stuff is almost untouchable now.

Please don't get me wrong, I love MadBum. But as a fan, I won't be able to buy his stuff because of the high prices current stars go for.

If you want an example, check this out:

http://auctions.mlb.com/iSynApp/auct...st1=giants&&qt[0].type=fieldmatch&qt[0].name=panname_teamname_s&qt[0].value1=giants

At time of this posting, there are two days to go in this auction. The jersey has 55 bids and sits at $13,510. If I bought that for myself for Christmas, my wife would file for immediate divorce!

I look forward to participating on this forum and sharing stories. Thanks and Happy Holidays everyone.

Dave Fall

[danesei@yahoo.com]

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Current NFL stars. The stuff of many current players sells for more than HOFers stuff.

In a way, this makes sense to me.

The top QBs/RBs in today's game are having their equipment essentially confiscated from them for sale on the secondary market. In those cases that they keep their equipment, it's released to the secondary market with an understanding that it has a value. Additionally, fans who aren't necessarily collectors, may drive the prices higher, since they see their heroes play.

The positive result of this is nearly impeccable provenance. The negative result is higher starting prices.

That said, if you have a game used jersey or helmet from Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Joe Namath, Johnny Unitas, Walter Payton, Red Grange etc, that have similar provenance (authentication directly from the player or club, as opposed to an equipment manager's assistant 40 years ago who found the helmet in the locker room after the season), you would expect to see five-figure prices at auction.

Heck, I would wager that if someone had a way to have a player authenticated (letter of provenance signed by the player who wore the item) rookie jersey of Namath or Unitas, you could even see six-figure prices.

[G1X]

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In short here is my generalization for over priced gamers....

1) ROOKIES --- 80% of them are not going to even be All Stars. It is like the hype of a new player overwhelms logic.

2 NFL Running backs --- I would actually go further and say NFL jerseys in general. NFL fans are not generally into game used as much as baseball fans. NFL thrives on immediate attention and forward momentum with it's product and players. The draft alone is basically it's own season. As soon as a decent player is retied and is not a hall of famer, boom value goes down. But back to my comment on running backs... Short life spam, fantasy football helps spike short term value, but the fall off is fast and there is no minor leagues to work your way back to being a feature back.

A Doug Martin jersey for $2500?
Yeah... I would be lucky to get $230 my Errict Rhett Bucs gamer from the 1990's.

+1

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange

[G1X]

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Current NFL stars. The stuff of many current players sells for more than HOFers stuff.

+1

Mark Hayne
Gridiron Exchange