Players with over priced gamers

[Cubsfan4life]

Re: Players with over priced gamers

Really? That is very generious of you. I am sure Pujols is appreciative.

First 3 seasons
Pujols
1. .329, 37 hr, 130 RBI
2. .314, 34 hr, 127 RBI
3. .359, 43 hr, 124 RBI

Trout
1. .326, 30 hr, 83 RBI
2. .323, 27 hr, 97 RBI
3. .287, 36 hr, 111 RBI

You also have to consider the different eras as well. In 2001, 46 players hit .300 or over and 40 players hit 30 or more homers. In 2014, only 17 hit .300 and 11 hit 30 homers.

[Roady]

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Really? Thanks for your reply. We were talking about first two seasons. And I said relative, so you again are not counting speed and defense. And first baseman versus centerfield are different positions. You are counting three stats, well done. It's not over the line softball at the beach.

Were were actually talking about the first 3 seasons. I thought your reply about 2 was just a typo.
You can find it in the thread that I brought up 3 not 2.

Anyway, it's baseball. Everyone is not supposed to agree.

[gorilla777]

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Really? Thanks for your reply. We were talking about first two seasons. And I said relative, so you again are not counting speed and defense. And first baseman versus centerfield are different positions. You are counting three stats, well done. It's not over the line softball at the beach.

[Roady]

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Sure, they were at least as good on a relative basis..but also you are talking about two different types of players, different skill sets, different positions. Speed and defense do play a part during a game, as do hitting first or second in the lineup versus third or fourth.
And I like Albert as a player, just not a big fan of his attitude off the field and towards fans, where he and Trout are much different.

Really? That is very generious of you. I am sure Pujols is appreciative.

First 3 seasons
Pujols
1. .329, 37 hr, 130 RBI
2. .314, 34 hr, 127 RBI
3. .359, 43 hr, 124 RBI

Trout
1. .326, 30 hr, 83 RBI
2. .323, 27 hr, 97 RBI
3. .287, 36 hr, 111 RBI

[gorilla777]

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Buy vintage, buy vintage, buy vintage is the point across most sports. If those numbers quoted on current NFL Auctions are true, then that is unreal.
And to answer the original post, I consider overpriced anything that I get outbid on at auction or can't afford, though that is just when I am carrying around sour grapes.

[jake33]

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In short here is my generalization for over priced gamers....

1) ROOKIES --- 80% of them are not going to even be All Stars. It is like the hype of a new player overwhelms logic.

2 NFL Running backs --- I would actually go further and say NFL jerseys in general. NFL fans are not generally into game used as much as baseball fans. NFL thrives on immediate attention and forward momentum with it's product and players. The draft alone is basically it's own season. As soon as a decent player is retied and is not a hall of famer, boom value goes down. But back to my comment on running backs... Short life spam, fantasy football helps spike short term value, but the fall off is fast and there is no minor leagues to work your way back to being a feature back.

A Doug Martin jersey for $2500?
Yeah... I would be lucky to get $230 my Errict Rhett Bucs gamer from the 1990's.

[gorilla777]

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Sure, they were at least as good on a relative basis..but also you are talking about two different types of players, different skill sets, different positions. Speed and defense do play a part during a game, as do hitting first or second in the lineup versus third or fourth.
And I like Albert as a player, just not a big fan of his attitude off the field and towards fans, where he and Trout are much different.

[Roady]

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Pujols' numbers in his first two seasons weren't better than Trout's. Also, Trout's first full season was a year younger than Pujols'.

Beyond that, I think the worst priced gamers have to be minor league hockey. Jerseys will sell for $1000+ for players who are highly unlikely to be future NHL stars.

Yes thet were.
I like Trout and believe he is a special talent. But he is not as good of a hitter as Pujols was and never will be. He hit for power this year and look at his average. At least Pujols got some age on him and went through an injury before his batting average fell.

[Samets]

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This isn't player specific, but NFL Auctions prices are absurd. An Eddie Lacy jersey going for $7,000??? That's Jerry Rice type money. A Jason Witten signed ball for $700???? Absolutely ridiculous. People over there are paying 2 and 3 GRAND for star player ISSUED jerseys. Total loons......

I think people are overpaying since the money is going to be used for good rather than to line the pockets of re-sellers and speculators...

[danesei@yahoo.com]

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I agree with you. Pujols' numbers his first three seasons are better than Trouts and he already is guaranteed HOF enshrinement.

Pujols' numbers in his first two seasons weren't better than Trout's. Also, Trout's first full season was a year younger than Pujols'.

Beyond that, I think the worst priced gamers have to be minor league hockey. Jerseys will sell for $1000+ for players who are highly unlikely to be future NHL stars.

[DoctorLoomis]

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This isn't player specific, but NFL Auctions prices are absurd. An Eddie Lacy jersey going for $7,000??? That's Jerry Rice type money. A Jason Witten signed ball for $700???? Absolutely ridiculous. People over there are paying 2 and 3 GRAND for star player ISSUED jerseys. Total loons......

[Wrigley2010]

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I agree with you. Pujols' numbers his first three seasons are better than Trouts and he already is guaranteed HOF enshrinement.

Been a while since I looked at Albert's stat line especially his very early career numbers... Wow. You have to wonder what his stuff would sell for today if he was just breaking in to the bigs.

Andrew Jones I just don't get it.

Dontrelle Willis once again I do not get it.

Couldn't agree more.

[Phil316]

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Andrew Jones I just don't get it.

Dontrelle Willis once again I do not get it.

[Roady]

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I find it amazing how people are asking $3000 to $4000 for a non-graded/MLB authenticated game used Mike Trout bat. Albert Pujols has had an incredible career up to this point and definitely is going to the Hall of Fame and I paid $800 for a 2002 GU9 SAMs bat on eBay last year which I'm looking to photo match. On average common GU Pujols Bats sell for around $1500. It looks like Mike Trout sells any and everything he uses so if he has a 15 year career and has the usual ups and downs, how many items will be out there and can people honestly believe his stuff will be worth that price they are paying today?

I agree with you. Pujols' numbers his first three seasons are better than Trouts and he already is guaranteed HOF enshrinement.

[carbonrosa]

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I find it amazing how people are asking $3000 to $4000 for a non-graded/MLB authenticated game used Mike Trout bat. Albert Pujols has had an incredible career up to this point and definitely is going to the Hall of Fame and I paid $800 for a 2002 GU9 SAMs bat on eBay last year which I'm looking to photo match. On average common GU Pujols Bats sell for around $1500. It looks like Mike Trout sells any and everything he uses so if he has a 15 year career and has the usual ups and downs, how many items will be out there and can people honestly believe his stuff will be worth that price they are paying today?