Jose Canseco vs. Alex Rodriguez

[3arod13]

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I'm certain that there are a lot of names that were not on Mitchels list. A lot of names. Big names.
I'm not patting Canseco on the back but I'm not mad at him either. The truth is the truth. People are just pissed because the fantasy that they have been living regarding certain sports and certain players is over with.
People love to bash Canseco, call him names and rant about his "credibility". Regardless of what you think of his motives ask yourselves a question, just who is it that has been proven to be a liar? It's not Jose Canseco.

Correct! There's no question there are a lot of names that weren't mentioned on the Mitchels list. A lot of big names!

People don't love to bash Canseco, call him names and rant about his creditbility. There's no quesiton in my mind at all that Canseco is very honest in everything he says...even when he mentions Arod's name. Possible...yes!

Bottom line for me (and I'm only speaking for myself), I just don't care for way Canseco went about it and for the reasons he did. His goal was not to clean up baseball. If it was, he would have done in back when he was playing. For those of us who know enough about Canseco, it was all about payback to MLB. A bitter Jose Canseco.

[3arod13]

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How many people have the courage to speak the truth under extremely difficult circumstances??? I think most simply take the "easy route" in fear of looking like a "Rat"

WHAT??? Courage to speak the truth under extremely difficult circumstances??? Canseco? Courage? Are you kidding me?

If Canseco wasn't bidder against MLB, he would have continued on, and if warranted, took his place in the Hall of Fame and kept his mouth shut, unless he also got caught. However, he had a grudge against MLB and this was more about payback and making money than doing the right thing. Heck, Canseco still priases himself for taking steriods and promotes them.

If Canseco was still playing baseball and then spoke out, then yes, he would be credited for having the courage to speak the truth under extremely difficult circumstances. However, he didn't!

Just like Brian Bosworth. Bosworth waited until he got in the pros before he spoke out about the drugs players were taking in the locker room in college. Hero? NO!

I'm a realist. Do I believe there's no way Arod took anything? No. Could he have? Sure. Is there proof? No

I have nothing against Canseco. Just don't care of the way he went about doing it. He didn't do it for the right reasons. He did it for payback and the money.

[JasonM33]

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I'm certain that there are a lot of names that were not on Mitchels list. A lot of names. Big names. I'm also sure that light will be shed on most of these guys before too long. Why did Canseco leave Arod out of his first book? We can only speculate. I'm also curious why he didn't mention Clemens? I knew Clemens was on the juice and I knew they were friends having played together a couple times. Interesting.

I'm not patting Canseco on the back but I'm not mad at him either. The truth is the truth. People are just pissed because the fantasy that they have been living regarding certain sports and certain players is over with. I'd prefer that professional sports never got corrupted by steriods. But, even at 12 years old when I first started being a fan of Canseco I wasn't fooling myself. I knew what he was doing and I didn't care. I accepted reality. I recommend that everyone should do the same. Let this stuff go. Either that or get a new hobby if you're that sore about it.

People love to bash Canseco, call him names and rant about his "credibility". Regardless of what you think of his motives ask yourselves a question, just who is it that has been proven to be a liar? It's not Jose Canseco.

[10thMan]

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I think Canseco is looking pretty honest right about now. I`ve read most of the books I can find on the subject, not just the "news" or press written crap. Disagree if you want, In Cansecos position, I MAY have spoken up too. How many people have the courage to speak the truth under extremely difficult circumstances??? I think most simply take the "easy route" in fear of looking like a "Rat"
WHAT MAKES SO MANY PEOPLE THINK A-ROD IS AN ANGEL? gimme a break!
Sean

[Yankwood]

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[joelsabi]

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i was at the book store awhile back and thumbed thru the index and saw alex rodriguez name. it turns out that they had flown together for some charity work, sending supplies to a poor latin country (forgot if it was cuba or dominican republic). so it seems they are not just acquaintances but maybe friends.

anyone else read this?

[JETEFAN]

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My thoughts are not whether he did or not, but rather, how sad it is that we now have to sit and wonder or speculate as to who did and who didn't. When I see Fernando Vina's name come up, I think to myself,"Who didn't?" I hope Arod's clean, but if he isn't, at this point nothing surprises me. My feeling is that if every team had a strength coach under the lights, several hundred names would be on that list. By the way, how's that Cano glove of yours?

Hey Yankwood, Looking at your "User Image" picture, you seem to have gotten much larger and "buffed" in a short period of time !! hmmmmm.....

[sylbry]

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I'm a Mets fan but if Canseco had dirt on Arod, why was it not in his first book? Why hold back perhaps the biggest name in his "tell-all" story? Something smells bad with this accusation.

Because he was saving it for his second book according to his bodyguard from his first book tour.

[suave1477]

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Bingo! That's exactly what I was looking for. I agree 100%. There is no way you would leave a name like Alex Rodriguez out of the book! Just no way!

No one said here unless im reading everyones posts wrong that "why did canseco leave arods name out".

Here is the most logical situations.

If AROD is clean - thats beautiful

Chances are though with the numbers he puts up he probably dabbled here and there - but then you can argue with he has been putting up high numbers since high school. Maybe when he was supposed to be eatting Laffy Taffy and Sugar Straws he was chewing on some pills who knows???

If Canseco does know something why would you put it in your first book and create speculkation then??? If you really wanted to blow him up wait till the shit really hits the fan put it in the publics mind and hint at AROD and then come out with a second book - Thats called smart marketing - I agree with TNT.

Why doesnt AROD sue, what for???? He's gonna waste his time chasing someone who at this point is not someone who can really do antyhing to him and then by suing Canseco would just draw press to the speculation of AROD using.

If AROD is a user and Mitchell knows chances are he left him out of the Report on purpose.
Remember AROD is the Golden Boy of Baseball, he is like Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, - He is breaking just about every record and he is doing it in record time. He is just about going to surpass every hitters record there is and up until this point the public sincerely believes he is doing it on natural ability. Do you really think Mitchell would list AROD???? That would completley destroy Baseball and even Mitchell is smarter then that

[cjclong]

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Canseco is one of those people you can't believe unless there is another source for what he says. People who say a person must be guilty if they don't sue someone for slander don't know how hard those law suits are to win even when a person is lying about you. Its very hard to prove you didn't do something. Its unfortunate that this steroid stuff is getting like the Salem witch trials where if someone said you were a witch you had the impossible task of proving you weren't. If Canseco had proof ARod used drugs it would have been in his first book. Now that he's trying to sell another one he's got to have "new" information. People won't buy the recycled stuff. We have a lot of crime in this country, but people are presumed innocent until there is evidence to convict them. It ought to be the same with allegations of drug use.

[3arod13]

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I'm still amazed how many people pat Jose Canseco on the back for telling all. If he did it while he was playing, and the sole purpose was that he didn't like it and wanted to clean baseball up, then I would also do the same. However, Jose did what he did because he was bitter, wanted to pay baseball back, and for the money.

That's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing bud the truth!

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad everything has come out and baseball is cleaning up their act. However, I don't care much for how Canseco went about it and how many think he's so great for doing so.

For the reasons he did it, I'm not putting him on my shoulders and hold a parade for him.

[3arod13]

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Ha!

I'm still amazed how many people pat Jose Canseco on the back for telling all. If he did it while he was playing, and the sole purpose was that he didn't like it and wanted to clean baseball up, then I would also do the same. However, Jose did what he did because he was bitter, wanted to pay baseball back, and for the money.

That's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing bud the truth!

[3arod13]

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I'm a Mets fan but if Canseco had dirt on Arod, why was it not in his first book? Why hold back perhaps the biggest name in his "tell-all" story? Something smells bad with this accusation.

Bingo! That's exactly what I was looking for. I agree 100%. There is no way you would leave a name like Alex Rodriguez out of the book! Just no way!

[JasonM33]

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I think Canseco is jealous of Arod's natural ability.

Ha!

[TNTtoys]

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I'm a Mets fan but if Canseco had dirt on Arod, why was it not in his first book? Why hold back perhaps the biggest name in his "tell-all" story? Something smells bad with this accusation.

Perhaps Jose wants to sell more books?!?! Let's say he wants to plant a seed in the public's minds by throwing out hints like this one... and somewhere down the road he releases the "sequal" to his book... people would be buying this one in droves to see if Arod is an "honorable mention." My 2 cents...