What is your Holy Grail of collecting?

[mvandor]

Re: What is your Holy Grail of collecting?

Dan Fouts game worn jersey and helmet.

Yup, that'd be #3 for me...

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Sure BTPH would love the Set Shot Buford 'gamer', but could he choose between that and a Warren Co5{ugh.

Yes. Any Carver High jersey would be a close second. I've searched for those also. How about Warren Coolidge orderly-used scrubs from "St. Elsewhere". Same character two different shows. Warren graduated from Carver and moved to Boston and worked in a hospital. The answer to my favorite classic TV trivia question.

[geoff]

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My Holy Grail would be a Real Manny Ramirez Game Used Sox Jersey.

[godwulf]

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It's reassuring to see that I'm not the only one who enjoys collecting (or trying to collect) tv- and movie-related sports items.

Within the realm of screen (rather than game) used items, I'd have to put that baseball Kevin Costner's character writes "For love of the game" on, in the film of that name. Any uniform item Costner wore in that movie would be nice, too.

[aeneas01]

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Aeneas,

What does rt refer to in this post? I saw a helmet today with a facemask like the one in your photo. It is a suspension helmet and is made by Frankilin.

I am guessing it is a youth helmet, though it fits my head well. I had never seen one like it before...which was strange since I saw it about 20 minutes after seeing your post.

rt stands for "riddell tenite". tenite was the name of the translucent plastic riddell employed in the first helmets they manufactured, beginning in the mid '40s. this generation of riddell helmets saw the paint applied to the inside, not the outside of the shell - yet the paint was easily visible through the clear shell. and, of course, an added benefit was that the helmet paint was actually protected by the shell.

but, as it turned out, the tenite plastic didn't work out as well as hoped. given that it was a relatively soft plastic, it would become malleable during very hot days and brittle during very cold days. also, as the interior suspension webbing became wet with weather or perspiration it would tend to shrink, contract. the soft tenite plastic had a tough time with this and it wasn't uncommon for suspension webbings to actually pull through the plastic at the rivet points. as a matter of fact, it's usually pretty easy to identify rt helmets in vintage photos because of the pronounced "dimples" at the rivet points which are caused by the suspension webbing pulling in the plastic.

anyway, there were very few teams that sported a helmet logo during the tenite helmet years - as a matter of fact, only the rams and michigan come to mind. and this posed a special challenge for riddell. with other teams riddell could simply spray the interior of the shell a team's color, apply the top coat, and be done with it - but not so with the rams. to start riddell had to apply horn stencils to the inside of the clear shell and then spray the shell blue. once the blue dried, the stencils were removed and then yellow was sprayed.

as far as the frankin helmet is concerned, i'm sure it's a child's helmet.

here are some nice photos of rt helmets....

1. sammy baugh's rt redskin lid, at the hof.

2. an rt paratrooper helmet; riddell licensed its design to the military. what's interesting about this photo is that you can easily see through the shell.

3 & 4. a pair of nice rt lids. transparency is evident when looking at the ear hole area. also, notice the slight "dimpling" near the rivet points, more evident on the baugh lid. but these aren't good examples of dimpling - more than often it was much more severe, even to the point where suspension units had to be removed, rivet areas reinforced by melting plastic rings to the area, webbing units reinstalled.

If we're dreaming, a Unitas GU jersey or helmet.

how about the baby unitas is holding - a tad more convincing than the macgregor "unitas" lid that fetched $50,000+++ through hunt!

[harpt]

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Thank you!

I am constantly amazed how much I learn on this site.

[helmets]

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60's Packers Suspension helmet - Starr, Taylor, Nitschke, or Willie Davis.

[soxbats]

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Not a joke. The jerseys were designed and made by Sportsrobe(AIS) of Culver City. The production company, Lorimar, is out of business. I have talked to the lady who designed the jerseys back in 1978. She does not know where the jerseys are today. Not at Western costume or any of the studio wardrobes. Sportsrobe never had ownership after the film was made.
Yes, this is serious bitness. I have searched since I have lived in Hollywood (11 years).
I left a message on Stockard Channing's answering machine, but she still hasn't returned my call. (OK...that's a joke).

Awsome, awsome, awsome search. Have you thought about writing to the actors who wore the uniforms? How about anyone who was responsible for wardobe? At this point desperate times . . .

I have a similar grail which is a Ken Poulsen game used bat. Called up to the Red Sox from double A for 5 games in 1967 he never returned to the majors and has all but disappeared. He is in Cal and, in a pure act of desperation, I contacted his class contact from High School who just ran a reunion and he said that he would pass my name on, but Poulsen never called. One of only 19 bats I need to complete a run of red sox non pitchers from 1960. The fun is the hunt.

[lund6771]

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a jersey of any player, but preferably Neal Broten's, that was worn in the Miracle on Ice game against the Russions...

Eurozione would be realy cool...did I spell his name right?

[PudgePollyMillerFan]

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Mine would be a Bob Probert Red Wings Jersey from the early part of his career with great wear.

[kingjammy24]

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the 1991 home jersey that Roberto Alomar in the 1991 All-Star Game and then proceeded to wear for the rest of the second-half of the 1991 season. (i know this because it had a font anomaly). boy oh boy. man would that be something. i'd probably be buried in that jersey.

rudy.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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ANY jersey of ANY player of the Pittsburgh Pisces, used in the film, "The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh".

I had no idea that there were so many fans of "The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh".

[mdube16]

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It's reassuring to see that I'm not the only one who enjoys collecting (or trying to collect) tv- and movie-related sports items.

Within the realm of screen (rather than game) used items, I'd have to put that baseball Kevin Costner's character writes "For love of the game" on, in the film of that name. Any uniform item Costner wore in that movie would be nice, too.

I have a costner signed ball with the "for the love of the game" inscription. Every time I look at it I wish it were inscribed "Crash Davis"

[both-teams-played-hard]

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Sure BTPH would love the Set Shot Buford 'gamer', but could he choose between that and a Warren Coolidge 'gamer'? Tough.

I think I would like a Kenny Reeves Bulls gamer, more than a Carver High jersey.

Notice Reeves' hair. It's a toupee! Why did they leave that in the opening credits? Not dissing the folically-challenged...but dang, that's funny...

[Canseco44]

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My Grail would have to be the 1999 Devil Rays Away jersey Canseco wore when he hit HR number 400 on April 14th 1999, which is today and also my birthday. He hit it on my 20th birthday. I have since acquired the bat and ball that he hit 400 with from Jose personally. I had the bat graded by Taube and he gave it a GU10! I will probably never see it, but I can always dream.


Todd