A-Fraud- juice head?!?!

[3arod13]

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Family and friends have asked me...

* Are you going to sell all of your Arod Stuff?
* Are you going to change your license plate?

Answer to both of these questions is no.

I still like Arod and will still continue to root for him as a player and continue to collect his stuff. Don't agree with what he did, but I can forgive him for that. He made a mistake (bad choice), like many of us have done in life, so I won't turn my back on him. I do hope he takes the right path and deals with this in a possitive way. Learn from it...and move on.

Regards, Tony

[JasonM33]

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Gee, Arod on steroids? Get out of town. lol

I've been saying for the longest time that these guys are damn near all on steroids. Even the skinny ones who don't look it. I'll repeat. You don't get that strong, that big, that lean, and that fast, all at the same time.

I am a Jose Canseco fan since I was a kid. He was entertaining. I loved watching him. However, at this point, all the steroid stuff has essentially ruined the game. Stats and records are so much a part of the appeal of baseball. I can't bring myself to watch a baseball game anymore. It's ruined.

Also, lets not pretend that we know who took what and when because we don't. We don't have any idea of who "needs it" or what they might have done without them. The fact is, they did do it, and probably for a lot longer than people think. History keeps repeating itself and there are a lot of people that still seem to be in denial about it.

[skyking26]

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While I still collect McGwire's stuff, I feel the same way about him as Tony does about Arod. Sick. All the guy had to do was talk at the congressional hearing instead of the stupid responses his lawyers told him. He'd be in a different place now.

Arod should learn from others. Choice is his.

[joecoco]

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I agree. Tony has always been a class act! - Joe Cocozzella

[joelsabi]

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To be honest (and I am being honest), I'm not concerned about stuff or money lost in stuff I bought. I'm more dissappointed in Arod even using performance enhancing drugs.

I also wish he would step up and admit it (if true) and not hide behind the union or anyone or anything else. If you did it, admit it. Why wait? Take responsibility!

Yes, I'm very dissapointed in all this. Actually heartbroken. I looked up to Arod as a dedicated, hardworking baseball player who loved the game.

This is truly devistating to me.

You will not hear any excuses, reasoning, or justification from me. If proven true, facts are facts.




Regards, Tony

nice sentiments. i too hope he take the high road if true. i also hope he breaks the news to kate couric if true.

[nyjetsfan14]

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To be honest (and I am being honest), I'm not concerned about stuff or money lost in stuff I bought. I'm more dissappointed in Arod even using performance enhancing drugs.

I also wish he would step up and admit it (if true) and not hide behind the union or anyone or anything else. If you did it, admit it. Why wait? Take responsibility!

Yes, I'm very dissapointed in all this. Actually heartbroken. I looked up to Arod as a dedicated, hardworking baseball player who loved the game.

This is truly devistating to me.

You will not hear any excuses, reasoning, or justification from me. If proven true, facts are facts.

Regards, Tony

While I certainly do not condone the use of steroids or like substances I do not condemn those who did use/try them to be more competitive/successful. Was it wrong and dangerous, of course we now know it was but just because someone made that choice does not mean he wasn't or isn't a hard working and/or dedicated player or a good person for that matter. We are all flawed and have all made mistakes. You cannot expect these men to be perfect. There have been many imperfections throughout the great history of baseball and this era is just another one of those. Not every choice we make in life is going to be the correct or moral choice. Players like McGwire, Pettite, A-Rod did not spit in a womans face like Larry Johnson, they didn't disparage the country in a pot induced stuper like Josh Howard, they were not involved in a double homicide like Ray Lewis, they did not destroy their organizations through selfishness like T.O. They did not fix games like Tim Donaghy. They are not Steve Howe or Denny McClain. I am not defending anyone nor am I judging them either, there obviously are plenty of perfect people out there doing that already. The important thing is the game is making the changes needed to clean things up. What happened 5 years ago was just that, 5 years ago. Just my personal opinions.

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To be honest (and I am being honest), I'm not concerned about stuff or money lost in stuff I bought. I'm more dissappointed in Arod even using performance enhancing drugs.

I also wish he would step up and admit it (if true) and not hide behind the union or anyone or anything else. If you did it, admit it. Why wait? Take responsibility!

Yes, I'm very dissapointed in all this. Actually heartbroken. I looked up to Arod as a dedicated, hardworking baseball player who loved the game.

This is truly devistating to me.

You will not hear any excuses, reasoning, or justification from me. If proven true, facts are facts.

Regards, Tony

A truly classy response from a true fan and collector. Thank you.

[3arod13]

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I feel bad for Tony here (3arod3). I'm sure with the news he feels pretty bad, that and watching the value of his stuff slide down the tubes.

To be honest (and I am being honest), I'm not concerned about stuff or money lost in stuff I bought. I'm more dissappointed in Arod even using performance enhancing drugs.

I also wish he would step up and admit it (if true) and not hide behind the union or anyone or anything else. If you did it, admit it. Why wait? Take responsibility!

Yes, I'm very dissapointed in all this. Actually heartbroken. I looked up to Arod as a dedicated, hardworking baseball player who loved the game.

This is truly devistating to me.

You will not hear any excuses, reasoning, or justification from me. If proven true, facts are facts.

Regards, Tony

[skyking26]

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I feel bad for Tony here (arod3). I'm sure with the news he feels pretty bad, that and watching the value of his stuff slide down the tubes.

Someday, I think we'll find out that MANY players are/were on it. That it was an epidemic of the era. Sad, but a statement of the times.

There are guys I do not believe are-were on it. Kingman, Thome, and Dunn...I am guessing they were never on the stuff. JMHO.

[joelsabi]

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Total hit job comming. It won't be the first or last that arod will deal with, everyone wants to knock off the person on top.

Selena mention this six degree of separation of scott boras. I looked up this concept on the internet and it says that everyone on Earth is separated from anyone else by no more than six degrees of separation. Basically we are who we associate with is this concept. I bet money that the biggest concept Selena will use in the upcoming article in SI and the book is this six degree of separation idea and she will use it for ARod, in his career and (in her book) personal life.

[frikativ54]

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Hey.......I have a fan!!!

LOL!

[schubert1970]

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I also find it interesting that she has a book coming out soon on ARod as well.

http://www.harpercollins.com/authors/35673/Selena_Roberts/index.aspx

The only thing that is new is this 104 player list. If this list of 104 players is sealed, then I am curious as to who had access to this list of 104 players. If these tests were anonymous, did any of the players who tested know the results of the tests? If not then who had access to this list and who would be willing to share this information with Selena? Why didn't the source reveal more than just 1 name on the list to Selena?

Total hit job comming. It won't be the first or last that arod will deal with, everyone wants to knock off the person on top. Great research!!

[schubert1970]

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Just wanted to lighten this thread up a bit with some jokes I found on the NYPOST web site. Some of these are really creative. Being an AROD fan these made me laugh.....life is too short.

"Start spreading the news, I'm leavin today, I want to be A-FRAUD of it, New York, New York!"

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"

"Sholess isn't in the HOF, big deal"

"Next year Baseball Hall of Fame should induct THE ASTERICK"

[suicide_squeeze]

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Someone needs to destroy that myth. I love a good inside-the-park HR, the suicide squeeze, and the liner down the left-field line. Not to mention good, dominating pitching, lots of strikeouts, and acrobatic catches.

Hey.......I have a fan!!!

[frikativ54]

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People say that players were good, with or without steroids. But what about those guys whose warning track flies were heading out of the park with the juice? These guys didn't just ruin an era; they cheated the game.