Re: MANNY RAMIREZ SUSPENDED 50 games!
suicide squeeze and gamer35,
Glad I could have such an impact on your day. I am grateful for the opportunity to have made the call against him accurately, as you both seemed to trumpet this man's arrival and fresh start in LA as a world event.
Yes, I did tell you, he has left another bloody welt on the back of baseball and you find it convenient to cast your wrath MY way?
Like so many who have accountablility problems in this day and age, you'd be better served analyzing the source of your own venom and slough off the opinions of a mere poster like me. Thanks for noticing me, though!
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Re: MANNY RAMIREZ SUSPENDED 50 games!
from today's LA Times:
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By Bill Shaikin
May 12, 2009
Manny Ramirez abruptly dropped an appeal of his drug suspension within hours of a scheduled hearing last week, cornered not by test results but by a prescription for a banned substance that appeared in his medical records, sources told The Times.
The substance -- human chorionic gonadotrophin (HCG) -- is classified as a performance-enhancing substance in baseball's drug policy.
Although a test result revealed elevated levels of testosterone and triggered an investigation, Ramirez ultimately accepted his suspension on the basis of a little-known clause in baseball's drug policy enabling the commissioner to levy suspensions "for just cause," the sources said.
Within the first two weeks of April, Ramirez was notified that he had tested positive for abnormally high levels of testosterone during spring training. His test showed between four and 10 times the normal range of testosterone, ESPN reported Monday night.
Further testing revealed the testosterone to be synthetic, as opposed to naturally occurring within Ramirez's body, the New York Daily News reported.
In their appeal, Ramirez and his representatives planned to argue the testosterone indicated the presence of DHEA, a steroid precursor banned under Olympic rules but not under federal law or baseball's drug policy, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.
However, that drug policy also includes a requirement that players must turn over medical records for reasonable cause. The union provided Ramirez's records, which included a prescription from a private physician for HCG.
Ramirez had not obtained a therapeutic-use exemption from baseball, which certifies the use of banned substances for proven medical need.
That "non-analytical evidence" -- that is, evidence beyond a positive test -- was the basis for the 50-game suspension. On the eve of the hearing scheduled last Wednesday, Ramirez dropped his appeal, and the suspension was announced the following day.
Scott Boras, the agent for Ramirez, has declined to comment on matters involving the suspension, including why the appeal was dropped. Baseball's drug policy restricts the commissioner's office and players' union from comment.
However, sources said that the appeal was dropped because the evidence of the prescription without the existence of an exemption gave baseball indisputable proof of a violation of the drug policy. In addition, Ramirez could complete his suspension before the second half of the season, rather than risk waiting weeks or months for a hearing that would be unlikely to succeed and could turn up additional evidence.
Baseball officials agreed not to contest the issue further, because a 50-game suspension is the maximum punishment for a first offender and the testosterone-related case would have been more difficult to prove.
In a statement issued by the players' union, Ramirez said he took "a medication, not a steroid," prescribed by a physician unaware that the substance was banned under baseball's drug policy.
Although anti-doping experts have said HCG is commonly used to replenish testosterone after a cycle of steroids, sources close to Ramirez have suggested the HCG was prescribed to combat issues surrounding sexual performance.
Ramirez is 36. Among men ages 30-39, about 2% have significantly low levels of testosterone, said Dr. Glenn Braunstein, chairman of the Department of Medicine at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.
Braunstein, an expert in reproductive endocrinology, said such patients generally would be treated with testosterone, not with HCG.
"There's no reason to use it in healthy male adults," he said.
In rare cases, he said, HCG could be prescribed. In the case of a healthy male in Ramirez's age group, he said, the odds of such treatment would be less than 1 in 1,000.
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manny said the doctor assured him the prescription wouldn't conflict with MLB's banned substances. doctor's advice cost him $8mm. should be interesting to see if manny sues the doctor. my guess, there'll be no such lawsuit.
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Re: MANNY RAMIREZ SUSPENDED 50 games!
Eisenreich, there is an article about you in the LA Times. You should check it out.
"The blue carpet was rolled out, the reputation makeover proceeding quite nicely, but then he goes out of his way to empower the "I told you so" mob.
It's a depressing world we live in at times, a lot of folks actually taking delight in someone's colossal blunder or human frailty, just so they can feel better about predicting it.
On a positive note they all seem confined to Boston with access to the Internet, or are columnists who regularly write on the front page of sports sections."
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I read some of these venemous posts, and it sickens me.
eisenreich8.....you told us so. Yes, you did.
Then you go on and enlarge and highlight "CANCER" as is if you were PROUD to have displayed your opinion of Manny in the first place in this manner.
Congrats to you. You're the man.
So Manny was only destined to ruin us fans in Los Angeles. Yeah, I'm sure the fans he still had in Boston are thrilled. Great job, great deduction.
skyking26......You want to brag about how the Dodgers passed up on an opportunity to sign Adam Dunn.
I was at Wednesday's game as the Dodgers beat the holy begeezuz out of the worst team in baseball.....I mean Adam's team, sorry.
He hit the ball well that game. Like a sophomore on a girls highschool softball team.
The dude strikes out more than any other major leaguer. Yes, inbetween those K's he hit's an occasional moonshot, and even wins a game or two during the long schedule for his team. Beyond that, he's a mediocre to poor left fielder, and not worth the outs he creates with his at bats. His temporary high batting average is just that.....a temporary anomally that will eventually settle back to upwards of .250 if he has a typical year.
He'll most likely get his 40 homers......but beyond that, he's a wash.
That said, Manny was exciting. He was a MONSTER at the plate.....an RBI MACHINE. It was electric with him in the line-up, and as a leader of the baseball team.
And it's all wasted....his reputation, his career, everything. If you guys want to take a bow, and spew out the "I told you so" venem, why don't you both be REAL MEN and say how wrong you were.
You were wrong because you fell into the "Manny will roll over and die once he gets his money" fan club.....and in fact, that's not at ALL what happened here.
What happened here could have, and most likely WOULD HAVE happened in Boston if they has taken the testing to the level they do today.
So congratulations for dodging the silver bullet during the Boston tenure. My opinion on the whole thing is........does it really matter if it happened now or then? It happened.......and that's as bad as it gets.
My last comment, as a 500 home run collector and baseball fan in general, is that I don't "hate" A-Rod because he's a Yankee. I disrespect him for being a cheater to the greatest game that ever was. He disrespected the game. The team is insignificant. That would be like hating the Mariners, or Texas......or his high school.......because he was (supposedly) using where ever he went. It's Alex that is to blame, and I have no respect for him, the greatest player who was 'chosen' to rid us of the Barry Bonds filth. Yeah, what a joke.
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Re: MANNY RAMIREZ SUSPENDED 50 games!
So, what about the other Mannys?
Manny Pacquiano
Manny Alexander
Manny Castillo
Manny Mota
Manny's Deli - http://www.mannysdeli.com/
Handy Manny - http://tv.disney.go.com/playhouse/handymanny/menu.html
Manny's TV & Appliances - http://www.mannystv.com/
Manny Fernandez - http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1252
Manny Fernandez The Raging Bull - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Fernandez_(wrestler)
Manny "Sharkman" Puig
I was wondering if any of them were featured in the news yesterday or today. I wonder if any of them have ever used drugs that some would not find Kosher.Leave a comment:
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With Manny being infused into the LA scene, maybe he thought the hCG substance he allegedly took stood for, "horchata Con Gusto."
Kind Regards,
Ron.
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interesting interview. last part of the interview goes over steroids.
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I know i don't have to tell you skyking,but dunn never gets the attention and credit he derserves.Because he isnt a flashy "look at me" player that the media gives thier attention to.And he isnt the demanding spotlight player the media love to kiss thier butts while broadcasting games.Like when the yankees play the sux's and they slurp all over ortiz and that "here today, nobody tomorrow",they call a mvp(what a joke that is).Adam just plays the game,and that's the problem cause it's rarely about the game anymore,that's why when you watch a game on tv they are rarely talking about what's going on in the game.Sorry for the off topic rant.But just had to say that.Any way,dunn should be mentioned more.
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I don't know if someone said this but if Manny failed a test in Spring training and acouple weeks ago shouldn't he have been suspended for 100 games because he failed it twice.Leave a comment:
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