ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

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  • 3arod13
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    Re: ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Originally posted by spartakid
    Possibly, and it's hard to speculate without Jose coming out and saying it, which I believe he'll eventually do. I wholeheartedly agree with you that he's trying to stay in the spotlight by intermittently dropping names of players. This is why I wouldn't be surprised if he kept a few of the names to himself and didn't mention them as steroid users in his book. Otherwise, if he were to release all the names at once, we'd forget about him. The one reason I believe it's Henderson is that this would be the time for him to drop Henderson's name if he was ever going to do it, basically like a statement that a user has been elected. If it's not Henderson, then Jose picked a very bad time to do this, right after the inductions. My money's on Henderson.
    I also think it's possibly Henderson. Only because Canseco never mentioned a HOFer before. After Henderson's induction, he mentions it.

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  • spartakid
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    Originally posted by Dewey2007
    I think it's Canseco's way of just keeping his name out there especially during a big time for MLB with the recent HOF inductions. This is what Jose had to say about Rickey in "Juiced":

    "Rickey Henderson was a genetic freak, a man with such incredible legs and arms that even past his fortieth birthday he looked like a mini body builder. To me, he was one of the best players in the game, and maybe the greatest leadoff hitter of all-time. He was a good teammate to have too. He just played the game, worked hard, and busted his ass everday"

    Also, this was in a local column written last month.

    "But there are signs that Canseco might be forgiven, at least in certain quarters. Rickey Henderson, headed for the Hall of Fame in August, said Tuesday that he'd have been happy to see Canseco (at the 1989 WS team reunion). He also stood up for Canseco when "Juiced" came out, saying that the former Bash Brother wasn't a liar."

    My guess is Boggs. He might have used them to help him with injuries during the last couple years of his career.
    Possibly, and it's hard to speculate without Jose coming out and saying it, which I believe he'll eventually do. I wholeheartedly agree with you that he's trying to stay in the spotlight by intermittently dropping names of players. This is why I wouldn't be surprised if he kept a few of the names to himself and didn't mention them as steroid users in his book. Otherwise, if he were to release all the names at once, we'd forget about him. The one reason I believe it's Henderson is that this would be the time for him to drop Henderson's name if he was ever going to do it, basically like a statement that a user has been elected. If it's not Henderson, then Jose picked a very bad time to do this, right after the inductions. My money's on Henderson.

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  • Dewey2007
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    Re: ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Originally posted by spartakid
    He hasn't been proven wrong yet (to my knowledge) and the fact that this comes out right after Rickey's induction...... not a coincidence in my opinion. There's a myriad of reasons why he would've waited until after the induction, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was Rickey and with the timing, it makes the most sense that it is him.
    I think it's Canseco's way of just keeping his name out there especially during a big time for MLB with the recent HOF inductions. This is what Jose had to say about Rickey in "Juiced":

    "Rickey Henderson was a genetic freak, a man with such incredible legs and arms that even past his fortieth birthday he looked like a mini body builder. To me, he was one of the best players in the game, and maybe the greatest leadoff hitter of all-time. He was a good teammate to have too. He just played the game, worked hard, and busted his ass everday"

    Also, this was in a local column written last month.

    "But there are signs that Canseco might be forgiven, at least in certain quarters. Rickey Henderson, headed for the Hall of Fame in August, said Tuesday that he'd have been happy to see Canseco (at the 1989 WS team reunion). He also stood up for Canseco when "Juiced" came out, saying that the former Bash Brother wasn't a liar."

    My guess is Boggs. He might have used them to help him with injuries during the last couple years of his career.

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  • 3arod13
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    Re: ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Originally posted by 3arod13
    Nobody would surprise me at this point. Not even if Cal Ripken Jr.
    I'm not saying Cal Ripken Jr. did. Just saying at this point, nothing would shock me.

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  • 3arod13
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    Nobody would surprise me at this point. Not even if Cal Ripken Jr.

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  • spartakid
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    Re: ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Originally posted by Fnazxc0114
    has he been wrong yet?
    He hasn't been proven wrong yet (to my knowledge) and the fact that this comes out right after Rickey's induction...... not a coincidence in my opinion. There's a myriad of reasons why he would've waited until after the induction, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was Rickey and with the timing, it makes the most sense that it is him.

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  • Fnazxc0114
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    has he been wrong yet?

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  • rj_lucas
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    Originally posted by Bondsgloves
    If it is Rickey, which wouldn't be shocking to me. Do you think Canseco waited until after he was elected to bring this up, just to say he knows a Hall of Famer who juiced is in the hall. Not to hurt Rickey's chances.
    That kind of tactfulness on Canseco's part would be inconsistent with everything else he has said up to this point.

    Rick
    rickjlucas@gmail.com

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  • Bondsgloves
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    If it is Rickey, which wouldn't be shocking to me. Do you think Canseco waited until after he was elected to bring this up, just to say he knows a Hall of Famer who juiced is in the hall. Not to hurt Rickey's chances.

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  • bigtruck260
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    Originally posted by Dewey2007
    If it's Rickey Henderson I think I'll give up being a baseball fan for good. I think Rickey was just a freak of nature who didn't need to juice.
    Rickey needed steriods the way Barry Sanders needed them

    I would think Rickey has a much higher self importance than to do steroids - or anything that would supposedly make him 'better'. He was born an athlete...he just chose to play baseball.

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  • emann
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    Rickey would be my "guess (that's all it is, so please don't act like jerks and attack personally over it)". Canseco played with him and McGwire at the dawn of the juicing era...

    Do I think that detracts from Rickey's overall ability or HOF credentials? No. Rickey is one of the greatest players of all time. That said, he's probably not one of the smartest players of all time, so it wouldn't shock me if he tried steroids via Canseco at some point in Oakland.

    Boggs makes little sense (aside from the fact he was struggling to make 3,000 at the end), his body seemed too beaten down by the point he retired.

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  • Dewey2007
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    Re: ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Originally posted by 3arod13
    ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Rickey Henderson?
    If it's Rickey Henderson I think I'll give up being a baseball fan for good. I think Rickey was just a freak of nature who didn't need to juice.

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  • 3arod13
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    Hope he mentions the player soon. To make the statement, but not share the name, serves no purpose.

    You all realize there are many more players than the 104 who tested positive, right?

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  • bigtruck260
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    Re: ESPN - Jose Canseco Said He Knows A HOFer That Used. Who do you think it is?

    Originally posted by jwasserman
    he was teammates with boggs at the end of his career. none of the others really fit. unless barney dreyfuss was juicing back in the day
    Reggie Jackson played in Oakland in 1987....

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  • jwasserman
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    he was teammates with boggs at the end of his career. none of the others really fit. unless barney dreyfuss was juicing back in the day

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