Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

[allstarsplus]

Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

If this is substantiated, could the administrator please comment on the thread. Does this executive have special access to these gloves, where he could give his gloves to 13alexrodriguez, make him a deal, and walk away with more "game issued" gloves on the market?

If the gloves were never ordered by the player and never made it to the clubhouse, then aren't these just game model gloves and NOT game issued?

[frikativ54]

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If the gloves were never ordered by the player and never made it to the clubhouse, then aren't these just game model gloves and NOT game issued?

I think so. What about if they are ordered by the player, but not received by him, meaning that there was an extra made for him, but never sent?

[chakes89]

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Can anyone explain a glove that this seller had up about a month or two ago?

He had a Phil Dumatrait glove available. It was a right handed throwers glove and Dumatrait is a lefty

Now that was funny

[MannyRamirez]

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I'll add that the week before Manny got suspended for 50 games I bought a Ramirez autographed bat from this seller. He was selling "more than 10" of them as a Buy It Now and certified by Elite Sports Marketing. However, when I got the bat it didn't have the ESM hologram anywhere on it. The seller told me if I returned the bat, he would put an ESM hologram on it and return the same bat. I was uneasy about this since who knows how long ago he signed it and how many hands it has been through. I didn't want it authenticated with a hologram at anytime except right after the signing is witnessed so I just returned it. IN fairness, the seller gave me a refund and did seem shocked (via email) that the hologram was missing.

[chakes89]

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So the seller just has a roll of ESM Holograms lying around?

Thats nice

[NYCrulesU]

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So the seller just has a roll of ESM Holograms lying around?

Thats nice

You beat me to it. I'll reiterate what I said before. It's probably best to steer clear of this seller and his items now to avoid any grief and frustration later. Far too many red flags.

[frikativ54]

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You beat me to it. I'll reiterate what I said before. It's probably best to steer clear of this seller and his items now to avoid any grief and frustration later. Far too many red flags.

You are right about that. I just got off the phone with glove authenticator, Denny Esken, and he told me that the gloves are real, but misrepresented. In other words, the gloves are pro-model, but not game issued. They never made it anywhere near the players and were not ordered on their behalf.

To the contrary, a player like David Wright has not used a Rawlings model since his rookie year. This batch of gloves was made this year, and after the retirement of someone like Craig Biggio, making these gloves clearly pro-model, but not game issued. If you want a glove really made for a pro, I would stay away from 13alexrodriguez's offerings.

[cigarman44]

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You are right about that. I just got off the phone with glove authenticator, Denny Esken, and he told me that the gloves are real, but misrepresented. In other words, the gloves are pro-model, but not game issued. They never made it anywhere near the players and were not ordered on their behalf.

To the contrary, a player like David Wright has not used a Rawlings model since his rookie year. This batch of gloves was made this year, and after the retirement of someone like Craig Biggio, making these gloves clearly pro-model, but not game issued. If you want a glove really made for a pro, I would stay away from 13alexrodriguez's offerings.

Thanks for the info Frik! Kinda what I expected.

[NYCrulesU]

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Thanks Frik! Great community here.

[allstarsplus]

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You are right about that. I just got off the phone with glove authenticator, Denny Esken, and he told me that the gloves are real, but misrepresented. In other words, the gloves are pro-model, but not game issued. They never made it anywhere near the players and were not ordered on their behalf.

To the contrary, a player like David Wright has not used a Rawlings model since his rookie year. This batch of gloves was made this year, and after the retirement of someone like Craig Biggio, making these gloves clearly pro-model, but not game issued. If you want a glove really made for a pro, I would stay away from 13alexrodriguez's offerings.

Very cool that you can get Denny on the phone and glad to hear his opinion.

I wanted a custom glove for one of my sons when he was 14 and wanted a Jose' Reyes model in a 10 3/4 size which I couldn't find anywhere. I put in a request through an equipment manager with a MLB team who ordered the exact glove for me with my son's name stitched in. The cost was $175 which was much less than I was willing to pay, and my son was really surprised by it.

Now then, if someone wants a great game model (near player spec) glove, some of this seller's gloves that are on the regular auction can be had for a good price and probably below cost.

I have seen other seller's on eBay with Rawlings "game issued" unused gloves and wondering the authenticity of them.

Here's one that I am personally researching:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ryan-Zimmerman-Nationals-non-game-used-fielders-glove_W0QQitemZ360182886261QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53dc92af75&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[grenda12]

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I sent the eBay seller a question.

I asked, Could you tell me what the EKES29 stands for?

He replied, Player code Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


I then asked, Could you specify that further.


He then replied, ts a game glove
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


I asked, Could you specify the EKES29 being a player code.


No reply back on that one.

[FENWAY]

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Code is May 2009...the 29 is the factory. Pathetic

I sent the eBay seller a question.

I asked, Could you tell me what the EKES29 stands for?

He replied, Player code Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


I then asked, Could you specify that further.


He then replied, ts a game glove
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


I asked, Could you specify the EKES29 being a player code.


No reply back on that one.

[frikativ54]

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Very cool that you can get Denny on the phone and glad to hear his opinion.

I wanted a custom glove for one of my sons when he was 14 and wanted a Jose' Reyes model in a 10 3/4 size which I couldn't find anywhere. I put in a request through an equipment manager with a MLB team who ordered the exact glove for me with my son's name stitched in. The cost was $175 which was much less than I was willing to pay, and my son was really surprised by it.

That is pretty cool. I bet a lot of kids wish you were their Dad.

Now then, if someone wants a great game model (near player spec) glove, some of this seller's gloves that are on the regular auction can be had for a good price and probably below cost.

Hard to say. Remember that players who order these gloves only have to pay retail value for their own gloves, which is about $200. It is doubtful that these gloves will go below cost, hence, why 13alexrodriguez was selling them.

I have seen other seller's on eBay with Rawlings "game issued" unused gloves and wondering the authenticity of them.

Here's one that I am personally researching:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ryan-Zimmerman-N...d=p3286.c0.m14

Check out the date code, EOES2_ (can't tell last number). That means that this glove was manufactured in July of 2009. Does Ryan Zimmerman currently use a Rawlings glove? Looking at GettyImages, it appears that he does indeed.

So it is perfectly likely that he did indeed order this glove fairly recently. However, I don't know if there's any way to tell for sure. Sorry that I don't know any more than that.

[frikativ54]

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Here is more information on the Rawlings date codes:

EB is 01
EL is 02
EA is 03
EC is 04
EK is 05
EH is 06
EO is 07
ER is 08
ES is 09
BE is 10
BB is 11
BO is 12

The two numbers after the four letter date code specify the factory. Simply put, the seller is either ignorant about the date codes or dissembling about what he has.

These gloves are clearly not game-issued as he states. For example, the Manny Ramirez glove's date code is EKES28, making this a 2009 glove. However, Manny has been under contract with Akadema, not Rawlings, for the past several years.

Why would Manny Ramirez order a shipment of Rawlings gloves when he is under contract with another glove manufacturer?

[allstarsplus]

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That is pretty cool. I bet a lot of kids wish you were their Dad.



Hard to say. Remember that players who order these gloves only have to pay retail value for their own gloves, which is about $200. It is doubtful that these gloves will go below cost, hence, why 13alexrodriguez was selling them.



Check out the date code, EOES2_ (can't tell last number). That means that this glove was manufactured in July of 2009. Does Ryan Zimmerman currently use a Rawlings glove? Looking at GettyImages, it appears that he does indeed.

So it is perfectly likely that he did indeed order this glove fairly recently. However, I don't know if there's any way to tell for sure. Sorry that I don't know any more than that.

Frik - Thanks!

That is a similar glove to what Ryan Zim uses; however, he has 4 extras sitting on the top of his locker in clear view. So with that code showing July 2009 it makes no sense to me (IMHO) as he would give someone an extra from the top of his locker (I would think) but lets face it, all of his significant stuff is going to Locker Room Memorabilia so I have serious doubts.

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/89780083/Getty-Images-Sport

The 2 big differences are the dark brown laces and the brown leather finger pad which isn't on his game gloves.