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  • frikativ54
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 3612

    #46
    Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

    Originally posted by allstarsplus
    Frik - Thanks!

    That is a similar glove to what Ryan Zim uses; however, he has 4 extras sitting on the top of his locker in clear view. So with that code showing July 2009 it makes no sense to me (IMHO) as he would give someone an extra from the top of his locker (I would think) but lets face it, all of his significant stuff is going to Locker Room Memorabilia so I have serious doubts.

    Ryan Zimmerman of the Washington Nationals prepares to field a ground ball during a baseball game against the Arizona Diamondbacks on August 8, 2009 at Nationals Park in Washington, D.C.


    The 2 big differences are the dark brown laces and the brown leather finger pad which isn't on his game gloves.

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    Given that information, I would stay away from this glove. Especially since there are gloves sold by 13alexrodriguez that are also Rawlings, and also recently produced, that appear to be made for reasons other than player request. Do you have a picture of Zimmerman's locker with the gloves?
    Les Zukor
    bagwellgameused@gmail.com
    Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

    http://www.bagwellgameused.com
    (617) 682-0408

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    • allstarsplus
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 3707

      #47
      Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

      Originally posted by frikativ54
      Given that information, I would stay away from this glove. Especially since there are gloves sold by 13alexrodriguez that are also Rawlings, and also recently produced, that appear to be made for reasons other than player request. Do you have a picture of Zimmerman's locker with the gloves?
      I'm not pulling out my camera in the locker room or it will be my last time in there!

      I am very discreet inside/outside the clubhouse because no pictures, no autographs, etc.

      This is my 3rd oldest son who got to go down with me to the clubhouse.

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      I took former Redskin Lavar Arrington to the game and down to the locker room and took his photo with Adam Dunn.

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      Regards,
      Andrew Lang
      AllstarsPlus@aol.com
      202-716-8500

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      • emann
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 904

        #48
        Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

        Originally posted by chakes89
        So the seller just has a roll of ESM Holograms lying around?

        Thats nice
        I've suspected something like this due to an issue with a different seller actually. I'd guess that ESM had some sort of deal going with certain sellers as "ESM resellers or representatives" and gave them holograms and the ability to manufacture ESM COAs as needed.

        It's why if I get any item with an ESM holo (and I need to be pretty sure about it before buying), I just peel it off and toss it in the trash.

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        • frikativ54
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 3612

          #49
          Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

          Originally posted by allstarsplus
          I'm not pulling out my camera in the locker room or it will be my last time in there!

          I am very discreet inside/outside the clubhouse because no pictures, no autographs, etc.

          This is my 3rd oldest son who got to go down with me to the clubhouse.

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          I took former Redskin Lavar Arrington to the game and down to the locker room and took his photo with Adam Dunn.

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          Oh, wow! I thought that when you said the gloves were on top of his locker, that you could show a GettyImages picture. After all, I didn't have time to sift through all the Zimmerman photos.

          I didn't know you had access to the locker room. Thought you just saw pics or interviews on TV. You must have some pretty good connections.
          Les Zukor
          bagwellgameused@gmail.com
          Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

          http://www.bagwellgameused.com
          (617) 682-0408

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          • allstarsplus
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 3707

            #50
            Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

            Originally posted by frikativ54
            Oh, wow! I thought that when you said the gloves were on top of his locker, that you could show a GettyImages picture. After all, I didn't have time to sift through all the Zimmerman photos.

            I didn't know you had access to the locker room. Thought you just saw pics or interviews on TV. You must have some pretty good connections.
            Unfortunately, no official credentials. I get Game Day credentials and try not to do it too often as I don't want to wear out the "welcome mat" just like getting field passes. They are very discreet on credentials and plenty of security cameras so I am appreciative for the opportunity and don't want to step out of line so if I take a photo it will be on my camera cell phone with no flash!
            Regards,
            Andrew Lang
            AllstarsPlus@aol.com
            202-716-8500

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            • grenda12
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 649

              #51
              Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

              Originally posted by FENWAY
              Code is May 2009...the 29 is the factory. Pathetic
              I knew the date code already, was trying to find out if he knew it. Obviously he didnt.

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              • ndevlin
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1362

                #52
                Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                Holy Smokes! This thread went further than what I expected days ago.

                Re-read this thread and ask yourself if you want to bother spending money on these gloves? I wouldnt.

                The gloves were either game issued or supposedly made for that player. Now that does not interest me one bit, especially when the seller has a nice quantity of these gloves. But I know some of you guys(and gals) like buying "un-used" items, so whatever makes you happy.

                Either way, you guys are answering all of your own questions. Just dont buy the gloves...

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                • allstarsplus
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 3707

                  #53
                  Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                  Originally posted by grenda12
                  I knew the date code already, was trying to find out if he knew it. Obviously he didnt.
                  Grenda - I read the back & forth below and I am not convinced that "Obviously he didn't" know what the codes meant although it is possible. If he admitted to it then wouldn't we expect him to update most of the auctions to state what some of these gloves really are??????? Am I missing something here?

                  I sent the eBay seller a question.

                  I asked, Could you tell me what the EKES29 stands for?

                  He replied, Player code Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


                  I then asked, Could you specify that further.


                  He then replied, ts a game glove
                  Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


                  I asked, Could you specify the EKES29 being a player code.


                  No reply back on that one.
                  Regards,
                  Andrew Lang
                  AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                  202-716-8500

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                  • frikativ54
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3612

                    #54
                    Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                    Just reported the seller's gloves. I would encourage you to do the same. Whether he knows the date code or not, he's misrepresenting these gloves as game-issued, when they are actually game model items. Deception is deception, even if the seller intended otherwise.
                    Les Zukor
                    bagwellgameused@gmail.com
                    Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                    http://www.bagwellgameused.com
                    (617) 682-0408

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                    • allstarsplus
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3707

                      #55
                      Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                      Originally posted by allstarsplus
                      Frik - Thanks!

                      That is a similar glove to what Ryan Zim uses; however, he has 4 extras sitting on the top of his locker in clear view. So with that code showing July 2009 it makes no sense to me (IMHO) as he would give someone an extra from the top of his locker (I would think) but lets face it, all of his significant stuff is going to Locker Room Memorabilia so I have serious doubts.



                      The 2 big differences are the dark brown laces and the brown leather finger pad which isn't on his game gloves.
                      Frik - The seller on the Zim glove has changed the description properly to a game model glove, and we have also exchanged emails on it.

                      Revised Aug-30-0918:28:17 PDT Description

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                      Regards,
                      Andrew Lang
                      AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                      202-716-8500

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                      • frikativ54
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3612

                        #56
                        Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                        Originally posted by allstarsplus
                        Frik - The seller on the Zim glove has changed the description properly to a game model glove, and we have also exchanged emails on it.

                        Revised Aug-30-0918:28:17 PDT Description

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                        That's good to hear. I honestly believe that some sellers simply don't know the difference. However, with 13alexrodriguez, by reading the listings, I would speculate that he does know what he's doing.
                        Les Zukor
                        bagwellgameused@gmail.com
                        Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                        http://www.bagwellgameused.com
                        (617) 682-0408

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                        • suicide_squeeze
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1442

                          #57
                          Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                          Originally posted by frikativ54
                          That's good to hear. I honestly believe that some sellers simply don't know the difference. However, with 13alexrodriguez, by reading the listings, I would speculate that he does know what he's doing.

                          Of course he knows Les.

                          Unfortunately for him, so do all of you.

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                          • cigarman44
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 621

                            #58
                            Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                            Just got a response from Rawlings. They told me you can not use a MLB players first and last name on a glove. However, you can use first initial and last name, or nickname. Here was his example:

                            Albert Pujols - Not acceptable
                            Pujols - Accetable
                            A. Pujols - Acceptable
                            El Hombre - Acceptable

                            Still leaves the door open for scam artist...

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                            • allstarsplus
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3707

                              #59
                              Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                              Originally posted by cigarman44
                              Just got a response from Rawlings. They told me you can not use a MLB players first and last name on a glove. However, you can use first initial and last name, or nickname. Here was his example:

                              Albert Pujols - Not acceptable
                              Pujols - Accetable
                              A. Pujols - Acceptable
                              El Hombre - Acceptable

                              Still leaves the door open for scam artist...
                              You cannot order Albert Pujols through the "Build a custom glove" link, but if you are a player, player's rep, clubhouse manager, team official, agent, etc., you are able to order custom gloves for your player(s).

                              The question is, how does someone get dozens of player model Rawlings gloves when these may not have come directly through a legitimate player order?????

                              I called Rawlings today and they were kind enough to take me through Ryan Zimmerman's personal glove order and he didn't order 1 glove with what they call the "gel pad" or I refer to as the finger pad on the top of the glove so how do you explain that the glove got on eBay? Other than the gel pad and color of the laces, the glove itself was the exact model and size that Ryan did personally order and the exact player red script embroidery on the glove too.

                              This is becoming that XBat problem of sorts that people think they are buying legit game issued and getting something that was never intended for the player.
                              Regards,
                              Andrew Lang
                              AllstarsPlus@aol.com
                              202-716-8500

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                              • NYCrulesU
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 232

                                #60
                                Re: Question about ebay seller 13alexrodriguez

                                Has anyone contacted the seller directly, perhaps to see if he intends to change the descriptions of his listings?

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