Re: Steiner a class act!
Right on, Brian!!!
Don't accept it! Give it to em, the incompetent greedy money-making bastards. They'll take our money, in exorbitant amounts, but they can't use some of it for "quality control"?
"F" 'em! Tell em to take their "Steiner tamper proof stickers" and sprinkle em on their dinner salads.
Demand accountability, or tell em to get out of the business.
I still get an occasional call from some young poor bastard who has taken on a "sales" job with them, to try to push the rediculously priced garbage they sell for super high profit margins. I kind of laugh at first, questioning why I'm still on their phone list, and then go into my fatherly mode and try to explain, in a caring fashion, why they should maybe persue a different form of employment as soon as things get better economically. But somehow, I guess there are still enough lesser-informed people out there who like sports enough to get salesman'ed enought to buy the stuff, so these guys push on....at least for awhile. Sad, but the ones who buy this overpriced stuff will be the GUU forum members of tomorrow eventually.
And they'll be angry just like a lot of us are over the past reamings we have all endured, and learned by.
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reed1216,
I agree with you completely. I was hoping everyone could see the sarcasm in my 'joke' comments.
To the rest of you, lighten up. If you all can't see there is a connection between the moral corruption that is prevalent in our country and our own little world here in game used collecting, then you're all asleep at the wheel. In no way was I making a "political" statement. But what better analogy could I use to get my point across, than the complete and thorough breakdown of leadership and governmental failure we are having to endure in our lives. It is permeating throughout every facit of business we see around us. Just look at Steiner, Grey Flannel, AMI, the collapse of MastroNet.......
I was merely cracking a joke, and using an overly emcompassing analogy as to why things have deteriorated to such a monster degree in our lives. If you all choose to simplify it by ignoring what's going on outside your front doors, then do as you will at your own peril. I am truly sorry if I stepped on your little "escape" here in the GUU.....but like I said, this infection of moral corruptness is heavily infiltrated here too, so snap out of it. We're all here to look out for eachother, aren't we? Hate me as much as some of you do.....I can live it with, but I'm still looking out for you as a group, individual or not. Call me someone in need of attention if you like (lol....spare me!), but all I am doing is speaking my mind to protect myself and the people who share my interests as I see fit.
I am not trying to highjack this thread. I was simply voicing a general opinion on why things are so bad. Apparently everyone missed my point....completely. The picture of Bush with the upside-down phone is symbolic of the steady deterioration of everything our country has tried so hard to build over it's many decades of existence. It's a correlation of the lack of fundamental skills and quality of life that is being perpetrated down our throats as citizens of the "Greatest Country on earth". More directly to the point....Steiner's incompetence in running their own auction. Instead of doing things right, they run an auction with duplicated items, screwing it up to the point they have a bunch of angry disappointed clients who are being handed apologetic "gifts" for their own lack of professionalism in making sure what they just posted on their site as an auction is correct.
Where is the accountability?
Sure, people make mistakes. I just know that I try to do the best at my job, and I don't see the effort put out in a lot of what I come in contact with in my life. It pisses me off. I would hope that it would disappoint you all too. Again, I'm sorry that you all missed my point. But I will not stop posting my dismay over the crap we are all having to sift through. If we don't demand better as a group...as a society.....guess what? Things will just get worse.
I won't accept worse. That's why I come at these so-called professional auction houses. And I always will.Leave a comment:
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Yeah. I recently inquired on some items and they listed what they had. I asked if I could get pics of the items. Their response:
"No pics available."
Really? Forum members can supply pics of items they are selling, but a company who makes millions off of collectors can't? I find it hard to believe. Steiner has gotten too big for their britches as they think they can do whatever they want now that they have all this inventory. They are deinitely NOT trained in customer service skills. They may put on a show just to make a buck, but I assure you it doesn't happen often, and it is NOT genuine.Leave a comment:
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I had a very simliar act happen to me with Steiner and because of it I really do not trust them whatsoever.... As you can tell from my screen name my last name is Berger so I love to find anything game used of players named Berger... I am also a Cowboys fan.. Joe Berger was the backup center for the Cowboys for a couple seasons and to be honest I dont think he actually took a snap in a game for those couple years...
Anyway they had the Thanks Giving day game used jerseys for sale via auction and I paid like 150 for it. I did not get the jersey they sent a different player. I looked and they were now auctioning it off for cheaper and I emailed them and was like hey you guys are auctioning of MY jersey that I already bought. I got an email back saying it wasny MY jersey they were selling. I find it hard to believe that Joe Berger someone who doesnt even play wore 2 jerseys in that game. I finally got my jersey after they corrected it but I have trouble swallowing that he actually wore this jersey on the sideline considering there were multiples of the same jersey for auction on their site from the same game... I doubt someone who never plays had a reason to wear 2 or 3 of the same jersey...
This process took nearly a month and a half to get my correct jersey!
Joe Berger is now with the Dolphins I hope Steiner doesnt have rights to their jerseys as I would love to get his jersey from the Dolphins also.Leave a comment:
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Perl,
Glad you are happy. In the end, that is all that matters.
In my head, I was thinking of a higher figure than $60. So, you were right. You did well. Glad they made you happy.Leave a comment:
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I was not given a list to choose from, but was asked to send a list of what I would like in exchange. I won a game-used Courtney Brown jersey for $60 and really just bid on like 5 jerseys for no more than $60 each just to see if I could luck into an inexpensive jersey. I won it but got the email it wasn't available. I sent an email saying I am a Michigan State fan and was offered the Flozell Adams issued jersey. I think the $60 is a fair price for that so was happy with the transaction. I probably could have put up a fuss but figured I added a MSU player to the collection for a good price so, for me, was happy with the transaction. I would say if I bought an expensive item, I don't think there would be much they could do to make up for it as was said earlier, some people sell items to pay for a higher-priced item and for that, there should be something done. But for me, I thought it was handled fine and was happy with what I got in return for the $60. I hope those who had bigger issues that a Courtney Brown get it figured out. I will also say, since there were two of each jersey listed, I am sure they took the higher price rather than the "correct listing" so can see where someone could take exception to that.
So I just want to say, my experience and what I got in return, was fine for me, but am sure each person's experience, as with any seller, can vary. I just wanted to share my experience and hope those that are having a more difficult experience can get something worked out!Leave a comment:
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I agree. I have political opinions but I don't express them here. Its not fair to those of us who keep politics off this site for others to continue to force their views on the rest of us. There are plenty of letters to the editor section in newspapers and political blogs where you can talk about politics to your hearts content. I have some very strong political views but I don't express them here. Lets keep this on sports and collecting. Please.Leave a comment:
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What the hell do your political beliefs have to do with game used collecting, take your political rants somewhere else.Leave a comment:
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suicide_squeeze- I think you must have posted the wrong photo, below your post. When I think of the "good ole days" images such as selling lemonade on a street corner and playing little league baseball come to mind.
When I think of George W. Bush, all that comes to mind is, thank goodness we have survived as a nation, after being led by an intellectually challenged, morally deficient and completely incompetant clown for 8 of the last 9 years. Those 8 years don't represent the "good ole days" to me, by any stretch of the imagination.Leave a comment:
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Nice Shane Spencer helmet, even though he was a right handed hitter he liked to wear a helmet for a left-handed hitter right??? that way he was protected if a ball bounced off the backstop toward his head? huh??? NOT!
Typical of why you can't put too much stock in steiner stickers and LOAs. The ebay seller points out its may have been another player but Steiner just says it is a Spencer helmet. I am sure they will fall back on 'that is what the Yankees told us' like they always do but if you are going to issue an LOA on something you should at least find out if he is a right-handed or left-handed hitter.
One more suggestion, ignore LOAs and stickers and stamps and do your research.
There was a day when we had laws against such flagrant misrepresentation. But you change a few politicians, and everything just goes to hell. My, how things have changed.......I yearn for the good old days again......Attached FilesLeave a comment:
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Re: Steiner a class act!
Nice Shane Spencer helmet, even though he was a right handed hitter he liked to wear a helmet for a left-handed hitter right??? that way he was protected if a ball bounced off the backstop toward his head? huh??? NOT!
Typical of why you can't put too much stock in steiner stickers and LOAs. The ebay seller points out its may have been another player but Steiner just says it is a Spencer helmet. I am sure they will fall back on 'that is what the Yankees told us' like they always do but if you are going to issue an LOA on something you should at least find out if he is a right-handed or left-handed hitter.
One more suggestion, ignore LOAs and stickers and stamps and do your research.Leave a comment:
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Well, gang.......just STAND BY.......they're now connected to Grey Flannel, kinda like in the same manner a hemmorrhoid is connected to one's rectum......and things are sure to improve soon!
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I'm confused.
Did they offer you a refund?
You bid on a Game USED/WORN jersey and are receiving a Game ISSUED jersey. Is that right?
I'd be curious to know if somehow the lower of the two auctions was the "error".Leave a comment:
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I had a conversation with my former rep at Steiner a few months back and asked to take me off the e-mail list until he figured out my issue.
Needlesstosay, I am still on the e-mail list (with two different reps) and have not heard from him as far as an explanation. I truly miss Bob Malandro.
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