Steiner a class act!

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: Steiner a class act!

Before the mods lock it up, I just want to know.......

Thanks for the comments, Andrew. My fan club here is probably upset you had anything nice to say about me, but you are right on. I am sick of the corruption in the hobby, and all of the misrepresentation that goes along with it.

And suave.....do you REALLY want to go down the "character" road?

Let's just leave that alone, ok? ......Mr. "long time member" who feels that fact alone is enough to entitle yourself to having good character?

Good character is something that is earned, by one's actions and display of integrity. Keep that in mind, please.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Steiner a class act!

Andrew I always repected your thoughts and opinions as I do believe you are an asset to this hobby/forum and I can appreciate the passion another member has for the hobby and what he may have in his collection.

But what you collect/own has absolutely nothing to do with a person's character.

To call out someone, slander, insult. When not even knowing the other person is not acceptable by any means regardless of what he has in his collection.

I am sure he has items that would put a collector in awe.

It is more than just a quip that is added. It is outright slander. To basically call a member a liar without saying it or even knowing the person personally. Does not make things ok!!

And you guys should take your personal differences off of the Forum in those instances.

As far as the helmet issue, I sided with you in my discussion with Steve as I doubt for $150 you had any ill intent especially considering it was a legit Yankees helmet just not used by the person you thought it was. As I said to Steve considering Shane Spencer's career it may have been a negative on the final price

This hobby is not a perfect science and team quality control is horrible so honest mistakes do get made.

To the moderators, time to lock this one up as it has reached past the level of any positive results.

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner a class act!

This thread got so far off base that I don't want to comment on the thread as much as I want to comment on Steve aka 'Suicide Squeeze'.

Steve may get off track. Steve may have some humor you don't get. Bottomline is Steve is a real honest guy who is sick of all the corruption in the game used business. Lastly, Steve is a very serious and passionate collector.

I once referred to Steve as the Barry Halper of 500 HR Club collecting. He owns some artifacts that would be considered priceless as they are so one-of-a-kind. His collection is museum quality and I don't want to give out too many personal details as the Hall-of-Fame of course wants Steve to donate his collection one day which is how historic his collection is, and yes he owns pieces from the Halper Collection!

I just hope Steve doesn't get too pissed off and never return to the Forum because he is a true asset to this hobby and I am so happy to call him a friend. When I go to Los Angeles for next years All Star game, my first stop is at Steve's home to tour his collection.

Again, we may have to put up with a oddly placed photo of George Bush or a political quip or some classic Suicide Squeeze writings, but it is worth it as his insight on other topics is so good.

Andrew I always repected your thoughts and opinions as I do believe you are an asset to this hobby/forum and I can appreciate the passion another member has for the hobby and what he may have in his collection.

But what you collect/own has absolutely nothing to do with a person's character.

To call out someone, slander, insult. When not even knowing the other person is not acceptable by any means regardless of what he has in his collection.

I am sure he has items that would put a collector in awe.

It is more than just a quip that is added. It is outright slander. To basically call a member a liar without saying it or even knowing the person personally. Does not make things ok!!

[allstarsplus]

Re: Steiner a class act!

This thread got so far off base that I don't want to comment on the thread as much as I want to comment on Steve aka 'Suicide Squeeze'.

Steve may get off track. Steve may have some humor you don't get. Bottomline is Steve is a real honest guy who is sick of all the corruption in the game used business. Lastly, Steve is a very serious and passionate collector.

I once referred to Steve as the Barry Halper of 500 HR Club collecting. He owns some artifacts that would be considered priceless as they are so one-of-a-kind. His collection is museum quality and I don't want to give out too many personal details as the Hall-of-Fame of course wants Steve to donate his collection one day which is how historic his collection is, and yes he owns pieces from the Halper Collection!

I just hope Steve doesn't get too pissed off and never return to the Forum because he is a true asset to this hobby and I am so happy to call him a friend. When I go to Los Angeles for next years All Star game, my first stop is at Steve's home to tour his collection.

Again, we may have to put up with a oddly placed photo of George Bush or a political quip or some classic Suicide Squeeze writings, but it is worth it as his insight on other topics is so good.

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner a class act!

TNT because I have absolutely nothing better to do with my time than to sit at my computer for hours to watch one auction end to see if I can screw someone. It is actually a personal enjoyment of mine as I have sold and bought items in this hobby over the years from/for very reputable sources and I was just waiting on one item for years to go by and hopefully unload an item that I can mis lead someone on for $150.

I figured if I waited years on an item and tried to turn a real profit for say $1k that might send up red flags. So instead I waited years to recoupe $150.

I am too stupid because I got caught!!

I knew I should of stopped having other things to do in my life and sit at my computer staring at a screen for hours to wait to see if anyone would send me an email regarding my auction!!! Golly gee what was I thinking. How dare I have a life and have other things to takre care of.

I apologize to the forum I am caught red handed!!!

(Please take all the above in good humor and nothing more)

[TNTtoys]

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TNT by the way thank you for your input!!

A thought. Maybe instead of disclosing all of the new information you found out to the buyer (which resulted in the buyer agreeing to back out), you should have offered him a $60.00 Flozell Adams jersey instead.

Seriously, I personally think it is perfectly plausible you were away from your computer. Why else would you willingly accept the added headache of having to pay final value fees, engaging the buyer in additional dialog, cancelling the transaction/filing disputes/mutual cancellations, etc. Why not just cancel bids and end the auction cleanly? that would make far too much sense.

[chakes89]

Re: Steiner a class act!

I was wondering when you'd add your little chicken dribble, chakes89.

It was about Steiner, and what a great job they were doing while showing what customer service is all about.

But there was a problem with a few forum members here in regards to agreement. Soon, it took a twist to bad N. Y. Yankee stuff in general. And low and behold, suave1477 ended up in the conversation. Go figure.

Sorry you A.D.D. is acting up again. We'll try to keep it more simple for you in the future.

Have a wonderful evening, chakes89.

Your friend,

Steve

It wasn't that I couldn't understand your higher level posting it's that I don't bother to waste the time reading any of your nonsense anymore

[chakes89]

Re: Steiner a class act!

If your tired of the same old song and dance every week, click Contact Forum Moderator towards the top of the page and voice your opinion.

[BULBUS]

Re: Steiner a class act!

You got to admit he is good for entertainment purposes lol lol

No, not really

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner a class act!

TNT by the way thank you for your input!!

[suave1477]

Re: Steiner a class act!

You got to admit he is good for entertainment purposes lol lol

[ndevlin]

Re: Steiner a class act!

You know, TNT, if you really think I was picking and choosing, I'll honor your wishes. The following comments will be my addressing of the facts....err, comments.....suave1477 made. His comments will be in devil red.....and the underlined will be commented on by myself.....mine will be highlighted and enlarged in beautiful black. Enjoy.

Suicide as usual I love your comments - so colorful.

If I was trying to sugar coat something I wouldn't even bother bringing back up Number9's comment. I did so for a reason to help him and others understand what the situation was.

As far as me trying to pass off garbage to recoupe some money was never my intent at all and to accuse me of such is in my opinion outright disgusting. I have been a member of this forum for quite some time and have always tried to help anyone I can in this hobby.

Really......wow, impressive. Then why, if you have been a member of this forum for so long, do you need to "gain" additional information on something as simple as an ear flap on a right handed batting helmet being offered by yourself for a left handed star Yankee player? That's elementary. Your comment doesn't hold water.I believe in the book of moral character, that type of statement is found under the "Disingenuous" chapter.

I love/enjoy this hobby very much as I think it is so much fun to obtain an item of a player that may have been a personal hero, favorite player, or a great expereince someone had with that player, etc.....

The story behind the helmet when I first purchased it was I bought it amongst other items and at the time took the LOA for face value and didn't think anyting of it or do any homework at the time (Yes that was my fault) So till the day I listed it. I was always under the impression it was Shane Spencers. I recently decided I wanted to movve some items
and I own quite a few batting helmets from the Yankees and decided I wanted to part with this one and another helmet. Previous to listing it I did do some minimal homework and noticed something did not add up "2003" Shane did wear #47 but up until 2002 in "2003" Orosco wore #47. So at that point I established in my listing next to the LOA that either there was a Typo on the LOA and they meant 2002 or if it is from 03 then it would have been worn by Orosco.

But the one thing you didn't "establish" was the one headlined in your auction listing: "Shane Spencer" game used helmet. You knew it wasn't, having been a long standing member of the GUU....right? But you claimed you overlooked it??? Once again.....how convenient for you!

But why don't we jump to the real facts......And by the way, you can thank TNT for this, as he called me out as someone who picks and chooses to only support MY views.....Is it safe to assume this helmet is a leftover from the boatload of garbage you purchased from Steiner years ago, and eventually tried to sell off a bunch of Yankee jerseys with all kinds of issues as "game used" jerseys? Ouch, sorry! TNT.....I warned you......If you guys want to pal up, expect to pay the price.


Again I never paid attention to the flap being on the wrong side. Just didn't dawn on me.

Yeah....and it still didn't dawn on you while listing the darn thing years later.....How convenient you choose that awesome piece to be one you recently decided to unload. Hell, at this rate, have you ever considered opening up a convenience store???

In fact, if I'm TNToys, I'm to believe the only time you realized it was a problem was when you realized you had been confronted with that 'EARFLAP" fact in emails on your action AFTER it had closed....Hmmmm....


I was sent an email within a few hours before auction ending and then another email about an hour before auction ending that the flap was on the wrong side and couldnt have been worn by Spencer. Which during that time I was not near my computer and if I was (which I wasn't) but if I was ebay doesn't let you revise auctions when it is that close to the auction ending. So nothing I could do anyway at that point.

I have since contacted the buyer and let him know chances are this helmet was not worn by Spencer and if he chose not to proceed with wanting to pay for the item. That I would undeerstand. He agreed and I will keep the item or re-sell it stating the additional information that I have now gained.

For all we know, the guy who bought it read the posts here, and told you to shove the piece. Who knows what the real truth is.....and quite frankly, who cares except the guy who bid on it. Maybe.....it was a shill bid?? Maybe that's why you still have this item? Ain't it a BITCH having to deal with this line of questioning? "lol lol"


As far as the original person I purchased it from it was very long ago and imo would be way to far passed for me to bother to ask for a refund. If I have to keep it and no one wants it and I take the loss so be it, i'll just keep it and chalk it up as a loss in my own pocket.

Nahhh.....guys like you just can't live with the loss. Hence.....your auction

But for you to sit there and accuse me of intentionally trying to screw someone else over, takes some serious GONADS.

Thanks.

Especially when you do not know the whole story.

Suicide why don't you try something different for a change and be helpful to the forum instead of sitting there always pointing fingers.
Is it possible for you to add anything helpful instead of creating topics that can draw people into arguments or make brash commects towards other members???



TNT......is there anything else I can answer for you?

Holy Smokes. Again?? Really?!?



I get tired of these posts. Same old crap, just a different week.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: Steiner a class act!

I think you left out this part, which is kind of important to the story:

I have since contacted the buyer and let him know chances are this helmet was not worn by Spencer and if he chose not to proceed with wanting to pay for the item. That I would understand. He agreed and I will keep the item or re-sell it stating the additional information that I have now gained.

Please, next time you wish to bash a fellow forum member, state ALL OF THE FACTS; not just the ones that make your own argument stronger.

You know, TNT, if you really think I was picking and choosing, I'll honor your wishes. The following comments will be my addressing of the facts....err, comments.....suave1477 made. His comments will be in devil red.....and the underlined will be commented on by myself.....mine will be highlighted and enlarged in beautiful black. Enjoy.

Suicide as usual I love your comments - so colorful.

If I was trying to sugar coat something I wouldn't even bother bringing back up Number9's comment. I did so for a reason to help him and others understand what the situation was.

As far as me trying to pass off garbage to recoupe some money was never my intent at all and to accuse me of such is in my opinion outright disgusting. I have been a member of this forum for quite some time and have always tried to help anyone I can in this hobby.

Really......wow, impressive. Then why, if you have been a member of this forum for so long, do you need to "gain" additional information on something as simple as an ear flap on a right handed batting helmet being offered by yourself for a left handed star Yankee player? That's elementary. Your comment doesn't hold water.I believe in the book of moral character, that type of statement is found under the "Disingenuous" chapter.

I love/enjoy this hobby very much as I think it is so much fun to obtain an item of a player that may have been a personal hero, favorite player, or a great expereince someone had with that player, etc.....

The story behind the helmet when I first purchased it was I bought it amongst other items and at the time took the LOA for face value and didn't think anyting of it or do any homework at the time (Yes that was my fault) So till the day I listed it. I was always under the impression it was Shane Spencers. I recently decided I wanted to movve some items
and I own quite a few batting helmets from the Yankees and decided I wanted to part with this one and another helmet. Previous to listing it I did do some minimal homework and noticed something did not add up "2003" Shane did wear #47 but up until 2002 in "2003" Orosco wore #47. So at that point I established in my listing next to the LOA that either there was a Typo on the LOA and they meant 2002 or if it is from 03 then it would have been worn by Orosco.

But the one thing you didn't "establish" was the one headlined in your auction listing: "Shane Spencer" game used helmet. You knew it wasn't, having been a long standing member of the GUU....right? But you claimed you overlooked it??? Once again.....how convenient for you!

But why don't we jump to the real facts......And by the way, you can thank TNT for this, as he called me out as someone who picks and chooses to only support MY views.....Is it safe to assume this helmet is a leftover from the boatload of garbage you purchased from Steiner years ago, and eventually tried to sell off a bunch of Yankee jerseys with all kinds of issues as "game used" jerseys? Ouch, sorry! TNT.....I warned you......If you guys want to pal up, expect to pay the price.


Again I never paid attention to the flap being on the wrong side. Just didn't dawn on me.

Yeah....and it still didn't dawn on you while listing the darn thing years later.....How convenient you choose that awesome piece to be one you recently decided to unload. Hell, at this rate, have you ever considered opening up a convenience store???

In fact, if I'm TNToys, I'm to believe the only time you realized it was a problem was when you realized you had been confronted with that 'EARFLAP" fact in emails on your action AFTER it had closed....Hmmmm....


I was sent an email within a few hours before auction ending and then another email about an hour before auction ending that the flap was on the wrong side and couldnt have been worn by Spencer. Which during that time I was not near my computer and if I was (which I wasn't) but if I was ebay doesn't let you revise auctions when it is that close to the auction ending. So nothing I could do anyway at that point.

I have since contacted the buyer and let him know chances are this helmet was not worn by Spencer and if he chose not to proceed with wanting to pay for the item. That I would undeerstand. He agreed and I will keep the item or re-sell it stating the additional information that I have now gained.

For all we know, the guy who bought it read the posts here, and told you to shove the piece. Who knows what the real truth is.....and quite frankly, who cares except the guy who bid on it. Maybe.....it was a shill bid?? Maybe that's why you still have this item? Ain't it a BITCH having to deal with this line of questioning? "lol lol"


As far as the original person I purchased it from it was very long ago and imo would be way to far passed for me to bother to ask for a refund. If I have to keep it and no one wants it and I take the loss so be it, i'll just keep it and chalk it up as a loss in my own pocket.

Nahhh.....guys like you just can't live with the loss. Hence.....your auction

But for you to sit there and accuse me of intentionally trying to screw someone else over, takes some serious GONADS.

Thanks.

Especially when you do not know the whole story.

Suicide why don't you try something different for a change and be helpful to the forum instead of sitting there always pointing fingers.
Is it possible for you to add anything helpful instead of creating topics that can draw people into arguments or make brash commects towards other members???



TNT......is there anything else I can answer for you?

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: Steiner a class act!

What was this thread originally about?

I don't want to wade through the nonsense

I was wondering when you'd add your little chicken dribble, chakes89.

It was about Steiner, and what a great job they were doing while showing what customer service is all about.

But there was a problem with a few forum members here in regards to agreement. Soon, it took a twist to bad N. Y. Yankee stuff in general. And low and behold, suave1477 ended up in the conversation. Go figure.

Sorry you A.D.D. is acting up again. We'll try to keep it more simple for you in the future.

Have a wonderful evening, chakes89.

Your friend,

Steve

[chakes89]

Re: Steiner a class act!

What was this thread originally about?

I don't want to wade through the nonsense