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  • legaleagle92481
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 2538

    #31
    Re: Almost another perfect game

    IMO MLB needs to do the right thing and reverse the call and declare it a perfect game. I would feel differently if it was not the last play but no way should the umpire be able to cost someone a perfect game with a call that was not borderline but terrible and undisputably wrong. As far as the argument that too many perfect games are bad for baseball, baseball is such a great game because anything can happen at any moment. Don Larsen can be perfect in a World Series game, VanDerMeer can throw no hitters in back to back starts, Mike Cameron can hit four home runs in a game, Jason Tyner can hit for the cycle, the Marlins can win the World Series twice in a few years and on and on. A perfect game is a perfect game and just because there were others lately does not make it any easier, imo it is one of the hardest single game feats to achieve in sports. To say that someone should rob someone of that just cheapens the game it is like saying well alot of people hit 50 home runs in the last 15 years so if someone has 49 the last day of the year the umpire should call a ball that is close to being foul but clearly fair foul to prevent him from getting 50 to preserve the sacredness of it. Such just sounds crazy. And why should those who have done it before get to have theirs without anyone ruining it while this player has to be prevented from getting there?

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    • camarokids
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 3869

      #32
      Re: Almost another perfect game

      Originally posted by legaleagle92481
      IMO MLB needs to do the right thing and reverse the call and declare it a perfect game. I would feel differently if it was not the last play but no way should the umpire be able to cost someone a perfect game with a call that was not borderline but terrible and undisputably wrong. As far as the argument that too many perfect games are bad for baseball, baseball is such a great game because anything can happen at any moment. Don Larsen can be perfect in a World Series game, VanDerMeer can throw no hitters in back to back starts, Mike Cameron can hit four home runs in a game, Jason Tyner can hit for the cycle, the Marlins can win the World Series twice in a few years and on and on. A perfect game is a perfect game and just because there were others lately does not make it any easier, imo it is one of the hardest single game feats to achieve in sports. To say that someone should rob someone of that just cheapens the game it is like saying well alot of people hit 50 home runs in the last 15 years so if someone has 49 the last day of the year the umpire should call a ball that is close to being foul but clearly fair foul to prevent him from getting 50 to preserve the sacredness of it. Such just sounds crazy. And why should those who have done it before get to have theirs without anyone ruining it while this player has to be prevented from getting there?

      Very well said!!!
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      • eisenreich8
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 433

        #33
        Re: Almost another perfect game

        Originally posted by legaleagle92481
        IMO MLB needs to do the right thing and reverse the call and declare it a perfect game. I would feel differently if it was not the last play but no way should the umpire be able to cost someone a perfect game with a call that was not borderline but terrible and undisputably wrong. As far as the argument that too many perfect games are bad for baseball, baseball is such a great game because anything can happen at any moment. Don Larsen can be perfect in a World Series game, VanDerMeer can throw no hitters in back to back starts, Mike Cameron can hit four home runs in a game, Jason Tyner can hit for the cycle, the Marlins can win the World Series twice in a few years and on and on. A perfect game is a perfect game and just because there were others lately does not make it any easier, imo it is one of the hardest single game feats to achieve in sports. To say that someone should rob someone of that just cheapens the game it is like saying well alot of people hit 50 home runs in the last 15 years so if someone has 49 the last day of the year the umpire should call a ball that is close to being foul but clearly fair foul to prevent him from getting 50 to preserve the sacredness of it. Such just sounds crazy. And why should those who have done it before get to have theirs without anyone ruining it while this player has to be prevented from getting there?

        A great post. I would love to see this call overturned. It would do the game no harm and preserve the sanctity of perfect game #21.

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        • joelsabi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 3073

          #34
          Re: Almost another perfect game

          Originally posted by legaleagle92481
          IMO MLB needs to do the right thing and reverse the call and declare it a perfect game. I would feel differently if it was not the last play but no way should the umpire be able to cost someone a perfect game with a call that was not borderline but terrible and undisputably wrong. As far as the argument that too many perfect games are bad for baseball, baseball is such a great game because anything can happen at any moment. Don Larsen can be perfect in a World Series game, VanDerMeer can throw no hitters in back to back starts, Mike Cameron can hit four home runs in a game, Jason Tyner can hit for the cycle, the Marlins can win the World Series twice in a few years and on and on. A perfect game is a perfect game and just because there were others lately does not make it any easier, imo it is one of the hardest single game feats to achieve in sports. To say that someone should rob someone of that just cheapens the game it is like saying well alot of people hit 50 home runs in the last 15 years so if someone has 49 the last day of the year the umpire should call a ball that is close to being foul but clearly fair foul to prevent him from getting 50 to preserve the sacredness of it. Such just sounds crazy. And why should those who have done it before get to have theirs without anyone ruining it while this player has to be prevented from getting there?
          it would be cool if it was overturned. would love to have the second Perfect Game from a pitcher who happen to be Hispanic. Baltimore's Denis Martinez being the first.
          Regards,
          Joel S.
          joelsabi @ gmail.com
          Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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          • scottanservitz
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 743

            #35
            Re: Almost another perfect game

            Another Tribe fan here and my whole family went nuts!!! That guy had a perfect game stolen from him. That is just a shame!!!

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            • STLHAMMER32
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 803

              #36
              Re: Almost another perfect game

              Originally posted by joelsabi
              why not the strikezone? if you mess with the play at first, questioning a third strike is the next progression. its just bad for baseball imho.
              The strike zone is an area that should just be left alone. Balls and strikes can't be argued during the game and it should not be something reviewable just as some plays are not reviewable in football.

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              • joelsabi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 3073

                #37
                Re: Almost another perfect game

                Originally posted by STLHAMMER32
                The strike zone is an area that should just be left alone. Balls and strikes can't be argued during the game and it should not be something reviewable just as some plays are not reviewable in football.

                Just saying that it opens a can of worm that I would rather just be left alone. Baseball has gone without instant reply for all these years and has survived. I like the human element of the game. Umps make mistakes. They are human. They do need to be accountable when they blow a play. I hope the ump admits his mistake when he gets interviewed. Just admit to the fans you blew it.

                It is interesting how technology has changed the game. I bet it technologically possible to make a device that can call strikes and balls. The electonic eye in tennis comes to minds. It's very possible. But I would hate it.

                The funny thing is now Houston fans will be attending more games to get the chance to witness a perfect game.
                Regards,
                Joel S.
                joelsabi @ gmail.com
                Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                • yankees506
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1064

                  #38
                  Re: Almost another perfect game

                  wow i just made it home and that is crazy. Arguing Balls and stikes would make the games last wayyyyy too long. But i mean come on, this is a perfect game he blew. What would happen if this was the bottom of the 9th in game 7 of the ws and the bases are loaded with two out tied at one and a call is made like this would we not say we need instant replay for crucial plays? i know this scenario seems unlikely but before tonight would any of us have even considered a blown call in the bottom of the 9th with 2 out would cost a kid his pg?

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                  • LastingsMilledge85
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 1438

                    #39
                    Re: Almost another perfect game

                    Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the Tigers submit the tape to, I believe the Commissioner's office, to have the play reviewed and possibly overturned? The Brewers tried that a few years back when C.C. one hit the Bucs and had no such luck when it was clearly a hit, but in this case I would imagine that they would overrule the umpire's call.

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                    • joelsabi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3073

                      #40
                      Re: Almost another perfect game

                      Originally posted by LastingsMilledge85
                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the Tigers submit the tape to, I believe the Commissioner's office, to have the play reviewed and possibly overturned? The Brewers tried that a few years back when C.C. one hit the Bucs and had no such luck when it was clearly a hit, but in this case I would imagine that they would overrule the umpire's call.
                      You have a lot of faith in Selig's judgement.

                      "According to baseballรขโ‚ฌโ„ขs rulebook, only the official scorer may change a judgment scoring call" so I guess its possible.
                      Regards,
                      Joel S.
                      joelsabi @ gmail.com
                      Wanted: Alex Rodriguez Game Used Items and other unique artifacts, 1992 thru 1998 only. From High School to Early Mariners.

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                      • STLHAMMER32
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 803

                        #41
                        Re: Almost another perfect game

                        lost in this mess was an unbelievable catch in center to keep the no hitter intact in the 9th....wow.

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                        • LastingsMilledge85
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 1438

                          #42
                          Re: Almost another perfect game

                          Originally posted by yanks12025
                          But ump blew it on the final play. I know others will be mad but i think its best that it was not a perfect game. Because with 3 in one month kills the whole event of a perfect game.
                          No hard feelings please take this with just humor (I have to), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

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                          • yankees506
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1064

                            #43
                            Re: Almost another perfect game

                            Originally posted by LastingsMilledge85
                            No hard feelings please take this with just humor (I have to), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
                            I saw this the first time you posted it on a diff thread and it made my day, you did it again. thanks mr. milledge

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                            • cigarman44
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 621

                              #44
                              Re: Almost another perfect game

                              [QUOTE=LastingsMilledge85;203200]No hard feelings please take this with just humor (I have to), [URL]

                              classic!

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                              • jobathenut
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1085

                                #45
                                Re: Almost another perfect game

                                I would be very surprised if they don't overturn this and rule it a perfect game.I think the ruling will come out today on it.Just what i think.

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