NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

[skier14]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Tulo has 14 HRs and 33 RBI in the month of September so far!!!

That ties for the most HRs in a 15 game span since 1900!!!

Tulowitzki joined Albert Belle (1995) and Barry Bonds (2001) as the only players since 1900 to homer 14 times in a span of 15 games.

Although unlikely, if he continues his torrid pace through Sept and for the games in Oct, he will pass Cargo for BA and end up with almost 120 RBI and over 40 HRs...

Being a Rockies fan, I would love to see him win the MVP, but don't see it playing out that way either.

What an amazing month no matter what... another Rockies story 'for the ages' as they say...

4 more and he breaks the MLB Record for September held by Babe Ruth and Albert Belle (17)

3 more and he ties Ruth and Belle but surpasses Ralph Kiner for NL Record for September

7 more (1/2 his current pace) and he paces Sammy Sosa for the LB Record for most in any month

Go TULO!!!

As a Rockies fan I would love to see that too, and as a Tulowitzki Collector, my collection would become much more valuable (but adding would be much more costly).

That being said, I would love Tulo to win MVP, also you have to remember he was injured for many games, which is why his numbers aren't the same as Gonzalez's

[xpress34]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Tulo has 14 HRs and 33 RBI in the month of September so far!!!

That ties for the most HRs in a 15 game span since 1900!!!

Tulowitzki joined Albert Belle (1995) and Barry Bonds (2001) as the only players since 1900 to homer 14 times in a span of 15 games.

Although unlikely, if he continues his torrid pace through Sept and for the games in Oct, he will pass Cargo for BA and end up with almost 120 RBI and over 40 HRs...

Being a Rockies fan, I would love to see him win the MVP, but don't see it playing out that way either.

What an amazing month no matter what... another Rockies story 'for the ages' as they say...

4 more and he breaks the MLB Record for September held by Babe Ruth and Albert Belle (17)

3 more and he ties Ruth and Belle but surpasses Ralph Kiner for NL Record for September

7 more (1/2 his current pace) and he paces Sammy Sosa for the LB Record for most in any month

Go TULO!!!

[legaleagle92481]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

On tonight's Cubs game telecast, announcer Len Kasper made a statement that Troy Tulowitzki is now a full-fledged NL MVP candidate. Anyone's thoughts on that?

Dave Miedema

Its a good question but how can a guy who is not having the best year on his own team be MVP. IMO it will be 1. Votto, 2. CarGo 3. Pujols 4. Tulo 5. Adrian Gonzalez

[skier14]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

I think that may be the case. As he has hit 26 HRs and has 92 RBI and is in second in the NL Batting Race, and hes only played 110 games.

Thats just my opinion, especially if the Rockies make the playoffs.

[sox83cubs84]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

On tonight's Cubs game telecast, announcer Len Kasper made a statement that Troy Tulowitzki is now a full-fledged NL MVP candidate. Anyone's thoughts on that?

Dave Miedema

[joelsabi]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Weekend Update (a nod to Chevy Chase, Jane Curtain and the REAL SNL Cast):

Cargo

BA - .341
HR - 32
RBI - 106

Votto

BA - .321
HR - 34
RBI - 104

Pujols

BA - .309
HR - 39
RBI - 107

Infante

BA - .339 (Not yet qualified for Batting Title - 443 PAs)
HR - 7
RBI - 43

Tulowitzki

BA - .324
HR - 24
RBI - 84
*** (Tulo has 12 HRs and 29 RBI in the month of September so far!!!) ***
*** (Stat from last night's game - Tulo has more HRs, RBIs and Higher BA than the ENTIRE Dodgers line-up combined for the month of September!) ***

Thanks Chris. Hopefully I can quote Meatloaf when this is over.

[xpress34]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Weekend Update (a nod to Chevy Chase, Jane Curtain and the REAL SNL Cast):

Cargo

BA - .341
HR - 32
RBI - 106

Votto

BA - .321
HR - 34
RBI - 104

Pujols

BA - .309
HR - 39
RBI - 107

Infante

BA - .339 (Not yet qualified for Batting Title - 443 PAs)
HR - 7
RBI - 43

Tulowitzki

BA - .324
HR - 24
RBI - 84
*** (Tulo has 12 HRs and 29 RBI in the month of September so far!!!) ***
*** (Stat from last night's game - Tulo has more HRs, RBIs and Higher BA than the ENTIRE Dodgers line-up combined for the month of September!) ***

[lakeerie92]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Cargo

BA - .341
HR - 32
RBI - 106

Votto

BA - .320
HR - 34
RBI - 104

Pujols

BA - .308
HR - 39
RBI - 104

Infante

BA - .340 (Not yet qualified for Batting Title - 438 PAs)
HR - 7
RBI - 41

Tulowitzki

BA - .325 (2nd - 461 PAs)
HR - 23
RBI - 82
**(Tulo has added 3 HRs and 10 RBI since my last update!)***

At that rate Tulo might be a Triple Crown contender

[xpress34]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Cargo

BA - .341
HR - 32
RBI - 106

Votto

BA - .320
HR - 34
RBI - 104

Pujols

BA - .308
HR - 39
RBI - 104

Infante

BA - .340 (Not yet qualified for Batting Title - 438 PAs)
HR - 7
RBI - 41

Tulowitzki

BA - .325 (2nd - 461 PAs)
HR - 23
RBI - 82
**(Tulo has added 3 HRs and 10 RBI since my last update!)***

[skier14]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Not that he is a candidate, but Ryan Howard will win the RBI crown.

Votto is having a better year than Pujols.

Why do you think Howard over the three players in front of him?

[Neal]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

Not that he is a candidate, but Ryan Howard will win the RBI crown.

Votto is having a better year than Pujols.

[joelsabi]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

You can't just take plate appearances for an off the bench utility infielder that has become a full time starter and use that as a season calculation because it will always be inaccurate. Like discussed before games counted earlier in the season he might have only got one pinch hit at bat. Those games distort the information as to average number of plate appearances now that he is an everyday player. Calculating his numbers as an everyday player the only choice you have is to use a more recent sampling of his time as a starter. Besides with all of those appearances that were one or two at bats a game earlier in the season it is mathmatically impossible that his numbers went from 4.9 a game to 4.3 a game in when his plate appearances over that week were 4.7 a game.

exactly. i used a 30 game period to figure infante rate. of course his 30 day rate is higher than his season rate as he now plays daily and hits leadoff. Leadoff hitter should get 4-5 plate appearance per game.

[xpress34]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

If you go to MLB.com and click the STATS key in the toolbar or search the player by name, you can click on this season and if you go to more stats, the TPA is listed there and it is the OFFICIAL Total Plate Appearances per MLB.

Just an FYI!

- Chris

[joelsabi]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

This is all fascinating but whether or not Infante wins BA title has no bearing on the TC. Pujols' average is too low. Cargo and Votto don't have enough homers and there are a slew of players besides those three with similar homer or RBI totals. If he wins he goes down as worst player to ever win a ba title which right now is probably Bill Mueller.

I never said it had any bearing on the Triple Crown. I was saying that there is consolation if Cargo get the batting crown. I actually did the calculation because I know Chris is really interested in Carlos Gonzalez chances of winning a batting title and knowing the estimated penalty would make it easier to keep track of Infante realized batting average. I intially thought Infante would not meet the threshold for qualifying and that the penalty for not meeting the 502 PA plateau would help Cargo's cause but that is not the case.

Anyways every batting title is treasured. Not many MLB players can say they have a batting title so if Infante get one that an accomplishment that he can be very proud of.

[lakeerie92]

Re: NL MVP Race should go to the wire!!!!

This is all fascinating but whether or not Infante wins BA title has no bearing on the TC. Pujols' average is too low. Cargo and Votto don't have enough homers and there are a slew of players besides those three with similar homer or RBI totals. If he wins he goes down as worst player to ever win a ba title which right now is probably Bill Mueller.

I will take the worst guy ever to win a BA title on my team anyday. I mean it isn't exactly an insult to say you are the worst player ever to win a batting title. Sammy Sosa is the worst player to ever hit 600 home runs, but guess what? He has 600 HOME RUNS!!!