Another juicer........

[schubert1970]

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Funny how everyone who pops positive is innocent. Maybe Braun will get the David Ortiz treatment. I think Kemp got screwed big time.

[freddiefreeman5]

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I'm hoping this report is wrong/the test was erroneous but that's pretty doubtful.

I'll probably have a few pieces of Braun memorabilia for sale soon...can't look at him the same way if this is true.

Very, very disappointing.

As mentioned, I have a atuographed baseball and that is all.
It's now $35 shipped in the classified.
I will look stupid if he somehow beats this rap.

[Bondsgloves]

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In time I think we will learn that many (most) of the stars have taken chemical enhancements. I think most people are in denial or want to believe there superstars are clean. With the money involved that these stars are making $250 million over ten years, I think players are making these unethical decisions. I think with the money involved players will continue to do PED's with testing or not.

[Dewey2007]

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Selig used to own the Brewers so no surprise that this was allowed to happen on his watch.

Just waiting for him to screw Oakland's fans next and help out his buddy Lew Wolff move the team to San Jose.

appeal or not MLB should have not let him collect the award while there was speculation or doubt!

How can MLB say they are cleaning up the game when they allow a guy who tested positive to collect an award thus allowing him the ability to collect whatever bonus that was in his contract for winning an MVP and any other benefits he stands to get for winning the award, not much of a deterrent there!

[gingi79]

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I'm all for being considered innocent until proven guilty but he's known since October. In 2 months, he should have constructed a damn convincing case. AND, if any logical reasons were made available, the test results should have been PRIVATE until a definite yes or no. No matter what, he will never lose this stigma now.

I'm not up to date on what causes a positive test, does anyone know a logical reason for a possible false positive? (Or are we just watching Palmeiro alllll ova again)

[schubert1970]

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MVP

Most Valuable enhanced Performance

[lakeerie92]

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appeal or not MLB should have not let him collect the award while there was speculation or doubt!

How can MLB say they are cleaning up the game when they allow a guy who tested positive to collect an award thus allowing him the ability to collect whatever bonus that was in his contract for winning an MVP and any other benefits he stands to get for winning the award, not much of a deterrent there!

Just to defend MLB a little here, the MVP belongs to the Baseball Writers of America not MLB. MLB isn't releasing the official information due to the appeal and I assume they did not tell BWA for the same reason. MLB didn't give the MVP, BWA did.

[lakeerie92]

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Sorry... BWAA

[frikativ54]

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Sounds like the statement put out by Palmeiro's lawyer.
Still waiting on that one.

I have to agree. When is Major League Baseball going to start revoking a player's awards if they were the result of juicing? As far as I'm concerned, Braun does not anymore deserve that MVP.

[Dach0sen0ne]

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Maybe his trainer accidentally gave him a shot of Testosterone instead of a shot of B-12 he was supposed to get. I'm sure mistakes like that happen all the time.

[freddiefreeman5]

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Is Tejada still giving out those B12 shots?

[happyyoungster]

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As the resident Ryan Braun collector on this site...
I have to say that I'm pretty blown away.

And as far as overturning any positive test results, it's never been done before.
So, I don't see any silver lining at this point. I guess time will tell.

[stitzerfse]

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It is important to note that no one has had a test overturned . . . in MLB. Many other leagues around the globe and even the Olympics have had athletes' tests/suspensions overturned to due issues with the test and/or the labs. I work in the medical field and often see cases where patients receive false positives with their lab results. NOT saying Braun is innocent, but someone in baseball WILL someday have a false positive given the sheer number of tests performed and the fact that humans are involved in the process.

In the meantime, anyone disgusted and wanting to unload their Braun game used items can contact me at the email below. I'm still buying.

[David]

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It's fair to assume the 95% of positive tested saying the test in error is not a reflection of the accuracy of the testing. It's a reflection of the the 95% being spoiled babies who can't man up to their mistakes.

[slam]

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Anyone want to sell there gu bats or jerseys? I'm looking to buy.