David Ortiz Hallf of Fame bound??

[georgia1011@yahoo.com]

Re: David Ortiz Hallf of Fame bound??

Didn't papi get caught? They aren't letting the big boys in yet

[gnishiyama]

Re: David Ortiz Hallf of Fame bound??

Different type of player and Ortiz won 2 WS which should help a lot but
when speaking of DH and stats alone, if he gets the nod then serious considerations should be made for Edgar Martinez.

Being a Yankees fan and watching Ortiz battle it out with us over the
years, I think he should be in the Hall of Fame because of the intangible
qualities he adds to his borderline HOF stats. I also think Mussina should
be in because he put borderline HOF #s pitching exclusively in the AL East.
I felt the same way for Pettitte before the PED incident because of his WS
numbers.

Not to steer this thread off course but my point being, Ortiz brings not
only solid numbers but other intangibles that only someone who watched
him a lot can appreciate. However, like Mussina and Pettitte, I feel Ortiz's
numbers alone aren't enough to be considered a shoo-in for the HOF.

[emann]

Re: David Ortiz Hallf of Fame bound??

I think the Hall of Fame should be reserved for full time players, who play both offense and defense. I don't care for a player who primarily a DH's, and doesn't do his part in the field. Just my opinion.

So, no American League pitchers can get in?

I get your point, but I don't think you can limit to only offensive/defensive players. DH's are playing a position that is part of the game, they should be allowed in. If you put up outstanding numbers it shouldn't matter if you're a DH, pinch hitter, etc...

That said, I think Ortiz is borderline. I think if he gets in, it'll be due to '04 WS nostalgia, popularity and probably years after he's eligible.

[3arod13]

Re: David Ortiz Hallf of Fame bound??

I was just curious on members thoughts. there are several different angles you can look at to answer this question.

Does he have hall of fame numbers? Not really, but if he can last a couple of more years he can hit 500 home runs. He is at 401

Does he have hall of fame numbers for his position at DH? Absolutely!!! I dont think another DH in history has put up his numbers.

So the questions becomes does he not get elected because overall his numbers are above average and but not super star numbers or does he get in because for his position they are super star numbers???

I think the Hall of Fame should be reserved for full time players, who play both offense and defense. I don't care for a player who primarily a DH's, and doesn't do his part in the field. Just my opinion.

[suave1477]

I was just curious on members thoughts. there are several different angles you can look at to answer this question.

Does he have hall of fame numbers? Not really, but if he can last a couple of more years he can hit 500 home runs. He is at 401

Does he have hall of fame numbers for his position at DH? Absolutely!!! I dont think another DH in history has put up his numbers.

So the questions becomes does he not get elected because overall his numbers are above average and but not super star numbers or does he get in because for his position they are super star numbers???