Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

[3arod13]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

I find it odd how a player like arod with his ability can't come through in the clutch.

His numbers each year are always great. But what good does that do for your team winning a championship, if you can't come through when it really matters?

[joelsabi]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

ARod is the new Roger Maris, a good non-homegrown player. Until he get a championship ARod will not be fully accepted by the Yankee fans. So is CC or Sheets coming to the Yankees?

[joelsabi]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

Against my better judgement, I actually watched the Yankees/Angels game on Sunday (which actually turned out to be a fun game to watch), but again I heard that A-Rod's average this season with 'Runners in Scoring Position' was in the .230's...he then hit a ball to Figgins which should have been an inning ending DP (bases were loaded) but Figgins booted it and was charged with an error

its .245 right now with a career .303 RISP. Jeters is .299 right now with a career .311 RISP

[ironmanfan]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

Against my better judgement, I actually watched the Yankees/Angels game on Sunday (which actually turned out to be a fun game to watch), but again I heard that A-Rod's average this season with 'Runners in Scoring Position' was in the .230's...he then hit a ball to Figgins which should have been an inning ending DP (bases were loaded) but Figgins booted it and was charged with an error

[Sheffield11]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

I dont think it was the contract, it was because he actually produced good last year in situations.

[3arod13]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

Funny how since Arod signed with the Yankees for 10 years, fans have a totally different attitude about Arod.

Add more years...you get more love

[Nathan]

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Most of this thread is ridiculous. It's mostly nothing but regurgitated garbage from the media and a bunch of stuff that doesn't matter in any way, shape, or form.

You're kidding me, right? "Vanilla lines"? "Insecure"? The guy plays baseball for a living and every move that he makes is instantly scrutinized by seven different local newspapers, two major national sports networks, and millions of people.

I know when I think of players I can't stand (Bonds, Clemens, etc), "insecurity" and "media blandness" are at the top of my list.

[Nnunnari]

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A Rod's the definition of a douche bag. You just have to watch the guy's mannerisms and body language and you can tell how insecure and full of himself he is. He is more worried about what people are thinking of him than anything else. He tries extremely hard to give off this attitude like he doesn't care and pressure doesn't get to him when really it's the exact opposite. He chews bubble gum like a tool, exagerated chewing that makes him look more ridiculous that he already is. He's a guy that nobody likes being around- he has no baseball buddies because he's a pretty boy that nobody has respect for. He tries really hard to come off as a hard nosed player, but those type of players don't have to try to be gamers they just are, i.e. Jeter, Erstad, Youkilis.

[David]

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I give due credit to players who stay in shape and work hard-- as opposed to those who don't-- and ARod is a hard worker. I personally can't stand Terrell Owens, but people say he always comes to camp in shape and tries as hard as anyone when he's playing, so I give Terrell due credit for that. I believe ARod is a bit of a phoney, but everyone has to give him credit for being a hard worker and taking his game seriously.

[bigtime59]

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Everything I've read and heard about Miss Pay-Rod suggests that--rather like a girl gymnast whose entire world is her sport, and who lives in a bubble--she is an incomplete human being.
Over on the baseball-fever boards, she was summed up by a former major league player as "the most insecure millionaire I've ever met".

Mark
bigtime39@aol.com

[David]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

Having seen many a Leave it to Beaver, I believe Mrs. Cleaver knew Eddie was full of it. 'Full of it' not being a phrase she'd use, of course.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Why is Arod really hate by so many people?

He tended to come across like Eddie Haskell being polite to Mrs. Cleaver.

But June Cleaver bought Eddie's cr*p hook, line and sinker!!!!

[David]

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I'm a Seattlite, and ARod was insincere when he was a young star in Seattle. He'd say these vanilla, well-practiced lines that no one believed, and no one believed he believed. Like, on going to Texas, "It' not about the money," when everyone knew it was all about the money. He tended to come across like Eddie Haskell being polite to Mrs. Cleaver.

[mr.miracle]

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I think that one big difference between Jeter and ARod, particularly in the NY fans perception is that Jeter has had a number of clutch hits that won big important games, particularly in the playoffs and world series. He was MVP of both the All Star Game and the World Series the same year. Until last year ARod was perceived as failing in the clutch. Last year he unquestionably carried the team and got big hits. Then the whole team quit hitting in the playoff. When you look at most players they frequently have lower statistics in the playoffs and WS than during the regular season. Willie Mays did very little in the three WS with the Giants besides his catch in the '54 series. Given that should we regard him as a failure as some do ARod? Jeter has played at the same level or in some ways higher in the playoffs and WS. If ARod could ever be perceived as getting the big hits a lot of the other stuff would be ignored. Since he isn't it sticks.

All very good points however in a world where it is common to be asked "what have you done for me lately" Jeter has done very little in the playoffs lately. I guess in the Yankee fans and the media's mind he gets a hall pass for all those great plays in big moments earlier in his career and his 4 rings, and AROD has not had his big moments at the right time. I believe it was pointed out on here before that AROD has a penchant for homering when his team is up 11 - 3 instead of coming up big in the clutch. The other factor is at least in part is that success breeds contempt as the old saying goes. Lets not forget that Jeter is not loved everywhere as a recent SI poll indicated that his peers voted him as the most overrated player in baseball.

[cjclong]

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I think that one big difference between Jeter and ARod, particularly in the NY fans perception is that Jeter has had a number of clutch hits that won big important games, particularly in the playoffs and world series. He was MVP of both the All Star Game and the World Series the same year. Until last year ARod was perceived as failing in the clutch. Last year he unquestionably carried the team and got big hits. Then the whole team quit hitting in the playoff. When you look at most players they frequently have lower statistics in the playoffs and WS than during the regular season. Willie Mays did very little in the three WS with the Giants besides his catch in the '54 series. Given that should we regard him as a failure as some do ARod? Jeter has played at the same level or in some ways higher in the playoffs and WS. If ARod could ever be perceived as getting the big hits a lot of the other stuff would be ignored. Since he isn't it sticks.