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  • 3arod13
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    Originally posted by mr.miracle
    The bottom line is that Jeter handles himself on and off the field in a very professional manner and AROD does not and that will ultimately make the difference no matter what both men do now and in the future.
    I do agree. However, the media leaves Derek Jeter alone. I'm sure if they wanted too, they could come up with a few good stories.

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  • 3arod13
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    Most of the negative I get about Arod is from the media. I don't see Arod really doing or saying anything wrong. His marriage problems are common in today's society. Only difference with Arod's situation is, the media is all over it, where you and I getting divorced, who cares.

    I believe Arod loves the game. He works hard to be the best he can. I think he wants to be the best when it's all said and done, and I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't see him stepping on anyones toes to get there. Media says players think he's all about himself, but don't hear players saying that. Again, all my negative info is from forums like this and the media. Some do know things I don't, so I can only try to figure out what I hear and read.

    I will say, like most do. Arod tries to hard to be liked. He overthinks things way too much, and that's where many people say "there's just something about Arod that isn't right." Other than that, I think he's a great baseball players and that's what interests me most about Arod the Baseball Player.

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  • mr.miracle
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    I am going to try to find an article that I think ESPN did last year prior to the Yankees entering the latest of their playoff flops. It analyzed Jeter and AROD's numbers over the past seven years in the playoffs and AROD was actually playing either better than Jeter or it was dead even. Yankee fans though will always give Jeter a pass since he has four rings as well as his overall play and the way he handles himself on and off the field. Meanwhile, AROD for as hard as he tries turns everything into a 3 ring circus in almost every aspect of his life.

    Look at the numbers career wise. AROD will turn 33 later this month not yet is in his 14th season has a 306 lifetime average, 537 homers, 1556 RBI's, 2337 career hits, 948 BB, 278 Stolen Bases, .389 OBP, .578 SLG, .972 OPS. Jeter meanwhile is in his 13th season has played a total of 56 less career games as AROD has a 316 lifetime average, 200 HR, 975 RBI's, 2456 career hits, 788 walks, 269 stolen bases, .386 OBP, .459 SLG, and a .846 OPS. Jeter is making 21.6 million this year and AROD 28 million. Show me those numbers and I would suggest Jeter is overpaid compared to overall production vs. AROD's career numbers. (I actually think they are both overpaid but that is another story). The bottom line is that Jeter handles himself on and off the field in a very professional manner and AROD does not and that will ultimately make the difference no matter what both men do now and in the future.

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  • mr.miracle
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    Originally posted by nycsports
    I was only joking, I enjoyed watching Ripken play.
    I know you did, but you are right, AROD has put up crazy numbers compared to everyone but Phat Albert Pujols.

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  • nycsports
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    Originally posted by AROD313
    Jealousy and stupidity! Are the main reasons!
    Exactly!

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  • nycsports
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    Originally posted by cjclong
    I guess the last post about Ripken shows everybody has their critics and you can't please everybody.
    I was only joking, I enjoyed watching Ripken play.

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  • mr.miracle
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    Originally posted by nycsports
    I have been a life long Yankees fan, and I am a big fan of A-Rod. In regards to his on field play, I am happy the Yankees have him on the team, as would any team, when he puts up 50 HR/150+ RBI numbers. In regards to his "choking in the post season," its crazy to place the blame for the Yankees recent post season failures all on A-Rod. Yes A-Rod has struggled in the post season, but so have 90% of the rest of the Yankees' batters. Pitchers like Jaret Wright, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown, and even Wang (19+ era in 2007 playoffs) are to blame for the Yankees' recent post season failures as well. A-Rod gets most of the blame however, because he gets paid the most, he's the best player in the game, and a lot is expected from.

    In regards to A-Rod's off-field life, I work in NY and see headlines about him in the NY papers every day. It's obvious that the NY press is just trying to write something negative about A-Rod, and most of the time the stories are just ridiculous. For example, yesterday, the NY Post wrote a story about how he was walking down the street in NY and checking out a girl. The Post showed two photos of him looking at the girl, and even wrote a story about this. Is that really news? I look at girls every day when I walk to work (along with every other guy in Manhattan). In in regards to his marital issues and accusations of cheating, I could care less what A-Rod does in his life off the field. If he did cheat on his wife, he's not the first baseball star to do so, (Mantle, Ruth, Boggs, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.) and he wont be the last. I'm just happy A-Rod is a Yankee, and I think most Yankees fans are as well. I mean he got a pretty loud ovation the other night at the A.S. game. And he'll continue to get bashed in the press, but that's just how NY is.

    DING DING DING DING, we have a winner, tell them what they won Johnny. The reason the Yankees don't advance in the playoffs over the past seven years is because their pitching sucks. While the rest of the league manages to compete on 50 - 80 million dollar payrolls or less, the Yankees keep signing old, used up pitchers who are not worth the 15 - 20 million per year that they are paid. Can we say Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Capt. Injury Carl Pavano and even Mike Mussina and Andy Pettite have been spotty at best over the past five seasons. Pitching wins in the playoffs and that is why the Yankees have consistently failed to advance over the past seven seasons with their massive payroll and aging injury prone players. That coupled with the fact that you have aging stars with massive payroll numbers in Jason Giambi, Hideki Matsui, Johnny Damon, and even Posada and this team may be in serious trouble in the next few seasons. Can they reload? Will they reload probably but Jeter just turned 34 and AROD 33 and this roster is built with high salaries with a number of aging players at each position. You can blame AROD but blame the rest of the Yankees as well as they have collectively failed to perform when it counts.

    Thanks

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  • AROD313
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    Jealousy and stupidity! Are the main reasons!

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  • mr.miracle
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    Originally posted by nycsports
    I hope A-Rod doesn't take notes on how to play like Ripken, cause if he did he'd be a .270 career hitter that averages 20 HR's per year.
    Yeah, you are right, he only had 10 straight seasons with 20 plus homers. So many players have done that over the years that its not worth mentioning. That and two MVP awards he should probably be booted out of the HOF.

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  • cjclong
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    I guess the last post about Ripken shows everybody has their critics and you can't please everybody.

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  • nycsports
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    Originally posted by 3arod13
    I truly think it's sad for someone as talented as Arod, that he's tainted by his selfishness and "All About Me" attitude. What a waste.

    If he would just play the game and take note of guys like Cal Rikpen Jr.
    I hope A-Rod doesn't take notes on how to play like Ripken, cause if he did he'd be a .270 career hitter that averages 20 HR's per year.

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  • cjclong
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    I'm not one of those who hate ARod. But there seems to be something about him, and I can't put my finger on it, that seems a little insincere. When he was with Texas Michael Young and he were friends and Young still sticks up for him. After Young hit the sacrifice fly in the All Star Game to win it the camera showed Jeter hugging him and ARod was no where around. Did he leave early? To mention this may be totally unfair, but you seem to notice it. Alex isn't the first player to have problems in his private life, but most of them don't get spotlighted as his do. I collect some of his game used items and think he is a fine player whose only real weakness seems to be that he isn't as clutch as you would want. Maybe he tries too hard to project an image and that's why he doesn't seem to come off as a real person.

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  • 3arod13
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    Originally posted by hblakewolf
    Confirming what I posted earlier:



    Wednesday, Jul 16, 2008 3:47 pm EDT
    Teammates, Madonna skip A-Rod's post-game party


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    Alex Rodriguez's teammates must wish they could divorce him too. "He's become a huge distraction with the Madonna fiasco," a source told Page Six. "It's always all about him." That explains why none of his fellow Yankees went to the All-Star bash he hosted at Jay-Z's 40/40 Club Monday night.
    Instead, his mommy, Lourdes, and his new best friends, Guy Oseary and Ingrid Casares, were by his side in a corner booth as he threw back shots. And Casares was then spotted leaving A-Rod's Park Avenue pad yesterday afternoon. Reps from Berk Communications, who'd slapped Madonna's name on their tip sheet for the event, kept insisting she was on her way, but she never showed. Instead, A-Rod was entertained by big-busted hotties who shimmied to Material Girl tunes and desperately tried to make eye contact with him.
    Over at Marquee, the more likable Derek Jeter threw a bash filled with pals like Billy Crystal and Michael Jordan. Jeter also brought his latest fling, Minka Kelly. They came in separately, but a spy said they were "very much together on the dance floor."
    Meanwhile, Mets third baseman David Wright hosted a Vitamin Water party at Hudson Terrace, where Blake Lively, Penn Badgley, Paul Rudd and Yankee pitcher Joba Chamberlain listened to a midnight performance by 50 Cent
    Source: New York Post
    Related: Joba Chamberlain, David Wright

    Howard Wolf
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    I truly think it's sad for someone as talented as Arod, that he's tainted by his selfishness and "All About Me" attitude. What a waste.

    If he would just play the game and take note of guys like Cal Rikpen Jr.

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  • nycsports
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    I have been a life long Yankees fan, and I am a big fan of A-Rod. In regards to his on field play, I am happy the Yankees have him on the team, as would any team, when he puts up 50 HR/150+ RBI numbers. In regards to his "choking in the post season," its crazy to place the blame for the Yankees recent post season failures all on A-Rod. Yes A-Rod has struggled in the post season, but so have 90% of the rest of the Yankees' batters. Pitchers like Jaret Wright, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown, and even Wang (19+ era in 2007 playoffs) are to blame for the Yankees' recent post season failures as well. A-Rod gets most of the blame however, because he gets paid the most, he's the best player in the game, and a lot is expected from.

    In regards to A-Rod's off-field life, I work in NY and see headlines about him in the NY papers every day. It's obvious that the NY press is just trying to write something negative about A-Rod, and most of the time the stories are just ridiculous. For example, yesterday, the NY Post wrote a story about how he was walking down the street in NY and checking out a girl. The Post showed two photos of him looking at the girl, and even wrote a story about this. Is that really news? I look at girls every day when I walk to work (along with every other guy in Manhattan). In in regards to his marital issues and accusations of cheating, I could care less what A-Rod does in his life off the field. If he did cheat on his wife, he's not the first baseball star to do so, (Mantle, Ruth, Boggs, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.) and he wont be the last. I'm just happy A-Rod is a Yankee, and I think most Yankees fans are as well. I mean he got a pretty loud ovation the other night at the A.S. game. And he'll continue to get bashed in the press, but that's just how NY is.

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  • godwulf
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    Originally posted by Oil Can Dan
    His slapping the ball out of Bronson Arroyo's glove in the 2004 ALCS then standing on 2nd base doing the jogging motion as if he had just been running was as insincere as it gets. And slapping the ball out in the first place is the definition of bush league.
    I can't help but think of this incident every time I see the man or hear his name, and I'm not even a Boston fan. "Bush league" is too kind - and an insult to the bush leagues.

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