Mastro List Submitted By Doug Allen!

[earlywynnfan]

Anyone see the Mastro shill bid list that was just released? I'm not sure how exactly they identified the actual shilling, but man, some well-known names on there!

Ken

[gorilla777]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

For sure, quite a read...

[ndevlin]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Recognized quite a few names on there. A fair number on this board.

What a shame...

[bravesfanjd]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

It was interesting to see the names of the shill bidders as well as Who's auctions in terms of cosigners they were shilling

Quite sad

[spartakid]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Can you guys provide a link, I couldn't find an article with a list. Thanks!

[admin_old]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Game Used Universe is aware of the list involving Mastro bidders, which mentions bidders, consignors, and winning bidders, and was offered up by Doug Allen prior to his sentencing. In cooperation with the forum rules, specifically in regard to accusations of wrong doing (rule 16) and unnecessarily discrediting others (rule 17), we ask that the list not be posted to our forum. Thank you for understanding.


Doug Reiser
Administrator

[kellsox]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Google mastro shill list. Certainly some notable names and an interesting read.

[GoTigers]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Wow, read the list last night... Very frustrated.

Personally I don't see how this list is in violation of either rule posted previously. It's neither an accusation (accepted documentation from a major court case), or "unnecessarily discrediting". This list help put some people away that were very bad for the industry. I don't see that as unnecessary at all.

[Trublubrucru]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Out of the shadows and into the light.

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Interesting take...

Sure, every word of this document might not be 100% proven, but this was from the court itself. Even as a point of discussion, it has some VERY well-known names. It lists several members of PSA. It probably list several forum members, if not more.

I'm a bit surprised: 6 posts, including one from an admin saying "Shh." Yet another, mostly vintage card forum, has over 370 posts and a very lively discussion. I feel this trial and the beginnings of the fallout are by far going to be the biggest story of the year in our hobby.

If it's not against forum rules, anyone who's interested can send over a message or email and I'll point you in the direction of the list.

Ken

[kellsox]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Please send me the address of the forum with the discussion on this topic since it doesn't look like it can be talked about too openly here. I'm interested in what others are saying/thinking.
Thanks
K
Kelspeck @ gmail . com

[GMEN92]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I don't understand why the list can't be posted.. As stated it shows several forum members as well as the forum owner, and head of goldin auctions..

Which makes me very concerned..

And actually nobody has been proven guilty in my Eli case but yet that's OK when my name and the topic can be discussed on this forum .

And Ken is very quick to respond to questions and ask that any concerns be brought to his attention.. So I'm sure many are concerned like me and would be nice for Ken to respond about it..

Is it because his auction is live that we can't bring attention to it?

Has this become a one way street??

Thanks..

[GoTigers]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I saw the lengthy discussion on another forum. It is frustrating that members feel like this cannot be discussed here. Wasn't this forum created to protect collectors?

This large court document has been made public, and admin here says it cannot be posted. Does this protect collectors, or does this protect people named in the document?

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

For sure, quite a read...

Gorilla, you have a bat collection that's nearly unmatched. I know I cringe, then drool when I see you post. This is only a couple-year window into Mastro's shenanigans. Have you purchased through them? I'm hoping you didn't get directly ripped off. (We all were indirectly ripped off, which is why I'm amazed at the crickets here.)

Ken

[GoTigers]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Wow, read the list last night... Very frustrated.

Personally I don't see how this list is in violation of either rule posted previously. It's neither an accusation (accepted documentation from a major court case), or "unnecessarily discrediting". This list help put some people away that were very bad for the industry. I don't see that as unnecessary at all.