Mastro List Submitted By Doug Allen!

[1929tudor]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Everyone in the hobby wants it to be clean and truthful as possible and when there is a list of guys on the list involved with Mastro in one way or another it should be posted so people can decide for themselves if they want to continue to do business with them if they own auction house or a business. Why is it so secretive on here? It makes everything sound more shady and definitely one sided by not letting collectors know who's on the list. Just my view

[kellsox]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Auction houses are kinda like baseball players in the steroid era- you have to assume everyone is doing something they shouldn't be. The list is further evidence. The moderation and censoring of posts in this thread has been shameful. All to protect the "stakeholders" in the hobby.

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

If nothing else, the sheer amount of times "Mastro Auctions" consigned items, bid on items, and won items makes me want to puke.

[bravesfanjd]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

It's sad this board has become so political and that the interests of few are more important then the whole guu community.

Just like in politics follow the money

[metsbats]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

If its allowed to be discussed, how come some posts by other members have been deleted when it didn't show the list.

Those posts contained references to the list and names.

[TwinLakesPark]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I have never seen so many moderators watching and moderating a thread before....

[bravesfanjd]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I feel the list should be on every collector website there is this allows collectors a chance to see how auction houses and cosigners have operated and allows collectors to decided who they want to do business with in the future

Is it sad that many industry heavyweights are involved of course it is, there where names on the list that I was shocked to see but it's out there and I think now collectors can use that list to protect themselves and learn from it.

The industry can hide from the list or allow it to be used as a teaching and learning tool for the new wave of collectors and hopefully continue to try and clean up the industry

[yanks12025]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Please note we asked that the list not be posted in the forum.

If its allowed to be discussed, how come some posts by other members have been deleted when it didn't show the list.

[Samets]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I've seen this topic discussed on other forums and some of the reasons why those individuals were shilling are interesting to say the least...

[metsbats]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Game Used Universe is aware of the list involving Mastro bidders, which mentions bidders, consignors, and winning bidders, and was offered up by Doug Allen prior to his sentencing. In cooperation with the forum rules, specifically in regard to accusations of wrong doing (rule 16) and unnecessarily discrediting others (rule 17), we ask that the list not be posted to our forum. Thank you for understanding.


Doug Reiser
Administrator

Please note we asked that the list not be posted in the forum.

[TwinLakesPark]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I would love to see this list, could someone please email it to me:

wesholden at gmail dot com

[GoTigers]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

Wow, read the list last night... Very frustrated.

Personally I don't see how this list is in violation of either rule posted previously. It's neither an accusation (accepted documentation from a major court case), or "unnecessarily discrediting". This list help put some people away that were very bad for the industry. I don't see that as unnecessary at all.

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

For sure, quite a read...

Gorilla, you have a bat collection that's nearly unmatched. I know I cringe, then drool when I see you post. This is only a couple-year window into Mastro's shenanigans. Have you purchased through them? I'm hoping you didn't get directly ripped off. (We all were indirectly ripped off, which is why I'm amazed at the crickets here.)

Ken

[GoTigers]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I saw the lengthy discussion on another forum. It is frustrating that members feel like this cannot be discussed here. Wasn't this forum created to protect collectors?

This large court document has been made public, and admin here says it cannot be posted. Does this protect collectors, or does this protect people named in the document?

[GMEN92]

Re: Mastro Shill Bid list!

I don't understand why the list can't be posted.. As stated it shows several forum members as well as the forum owner, and head of goldin auctions..

Which makes me very concerned..

And actually nobody has been proven guilty in my Eli case but yet that's OK when my name and the topic can be discussed on this forum .

And Ken is very quick to respond to questions and ask that any concerns be brought to his attention.. So I'm sure many are concerned like me and would be nice for Ken to respond about it..

Is it because his auction is live that we can't bring attention to it?

Has this become a one way street??

Thanks..