Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jersey

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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers

In my past dealing with Dan at DC sport I have had nothing but professional, knowledgable interactions with him. All items purchased from DC are shipped before he requires payment . Dan allow a 1 week window to look at item, and in my case I photomatch items.. I would say 85% of time I find a match and the other 15% is b/c there isn't a quality pic to match. I will say of the 8 Kobe jerseys I've bought from DC, 100% of those are matched. Your use of the term "our hero" is uncalled for and suggest an aura of an partial jury, when you try to portray yourself as a soldier of transparency and fairness in our great hobby. This post has led me read further onto all members involved via past threads and posts. And judging from your inputs seems others deserve fairness more than some... Depending on your relationship with them. Stop the witch hunt atmosphere and show some impartialness.

I'm sure Dan has had some amazing authentic items over the years, but after a while when you keep pumping so much stuff into the marketplace with letter that state they all come from a source with access inside a professional sports team and you write letters for 3rd parties stating their items came from this source, it raises questions that Dan should answer instead of going into a shell.

I am impartial - I asked tough questions and Dan has ignored them for the most part but he has three new friends posting defending him today which is fine. All sides should share about their experiences.

I'd really like an explanation about the counterfeit Kobe autograph that was added to Ryan's jersey also - Witch hunt? Dan admits he charged for the autograph - so why isn't it authentic?

Finally, you have eight Kobe jerseys from Dan with his letters and photomatches? Can you post them all to share with us? It is amazing that one collector has eight jerseys himself so I understand why you would defend the authenticator when his practice is questioned instead of looking at the whole big picture that I am trying to get answers for.

The history of discussions on Game Used Universe show when an authenticator or distributor is questioned the first thing everyone does is defend their own inventory piece by piece. This is fine but it doesn't hide the fact that there is questionable activities take have taken place here.

[net0@thehalf]

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In my past dealing with Dan at DC sport I have had nothing but professional, knowledgable interactions with him. All items purchased from DC are shipped before he requires payment . Dan allow a 1 week window to look at item, and in my case I photomatch items.. I would say 85% of time I find a match and the other 15% is b/c there isn't a quality pic to match. I will say of the 8 Kobe jerseys I've bought from DC, 100% of those are matched. Your use of the term "our hero" is uncalled for and suggest an aura of an partial jury, when you try to portray yourself as a soldier of transparency and fairness in our great hobby. This post has led me read further onto all members involved via past threads and posts. And judging from your inputs seems others deserve fairness more than some... Depending on your relationship with them. Stop the witch hunt atmosphere and show some impartialness.

[trsent]

Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers

That's not really fair cause every auction house makes and continues to make mistakes. Grey flannel, heritage, Goldins it's just how it goes. You support psa and they make mistakes too. It's everyone's right to defend just as much as it is to attack if something's wrong.
I'm looking forward to hearing from Dan and Ryan though

Yes - 3rd party authenticators will make mistakes but Dan's letters make it appear that each item came from a mysterious inside source with Los Angeles Lakers locker room access. The fact that the autograph on this one item is questionable makes me wonder what is the full story behind this operation and questions have been ignored not answered

Joel, I think I know why Dan is not responding to you regarding the authentication fees. Mears, PSA, Meigray and other authenticators have a pricing scale when it comes to high end items.

Here is PSA's pricing scale: http://www.psacard.com/Fees/Autographs#batfees

Here is Mears' pricing scale: http://www.mearsonline.com/index.php...valuation-fees

Here is Meigray's pricing scale: http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/serv...D=$catParentID


Mark mentioned that Dan has a "standard" pricing for authentication/autographs. A potential rookie Kobe Bryant game used jersey is not a "standard" item. This is a high end, potentially high value item that he would have been authenticating. Don't you think Dan has every right to increase his authentication fees, based on other authenticators pricing scales? I'm thinking your witchhunt with regards to his increase in the authentication fees is going to go nowhere.

Dan is not PSA, MEARS or Meigray and if that is his policy why has he ignored my questions about it? If our hero would like to post on his own behalf it would add to our conversation and help prove his value to the industry. Sitting in a dark room ignoring emails and this thread is a bad sign for someone who has always been here part of our forum.

We have seen the same style letters for D. C. Sports for years stating items came from someone with special access to Los Angeles Lakers players and not we find a horrible example of a jersey that couldn't have come from The Lakers and suddenly we find that 3rd parties have been using Dan for authentication for a long time and he claims he just started writing letters for 3rd parties?

What about all those auction house items? They have been using Dan for years and they all can't be from inside a locker room from Dan's mysterious source? I see a whole big problem for a long time that this one rookie jersey has helped uncover.

Oh yeah, who is signing Kobe's signature also? It is not Kobe Bryant on this rookie jersey in discussion - I'll guarantee you that.

[sportscentury]

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I can only comment on my experiences with DC Sports.

I'm thinking your witchhunt with regards to his increase in the authentication fees is going to go nowhere.

It is nice to see two brand new members now joining the discussion. Welcome to GUU!

[Jags Fan Dan]

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Joel, I think I know why Dan is not responding to you regarding the authentication fees. Mears, PSA, Meigray and other authenticators have a pricing scale when it comes to high end items.

Here is PSA's pricing scale: http://www.psacard.com/Fees/Autographs#batfees

Here is Mears' pricing scale: http://www.mearsonline.com/index.php...valuation-fees

Here is Meigray's pricing scale: http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/serv...D=$catParentID


Mark mentioned that Dan has a "standard" pricing for authentication/autographs. A potential rookie Kobe Bryant game used jersey is not a "standard" item. This is a high end, potentially high value item that he would have been authenticating. Don't you think Dan has every right to increase his authentication fees, based on other authenticators pricing scales? I'm thinking your witchhunt with regards to his increase in the authentication fees is going to go nowhere.

If he has a similar pricing scale, it could easily be posted here. Seems like a lot of people are waiting to see it, among other things.

[beachpetrol]

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Dan has ignored my question how much he charged Ryan for the authentication and autograph on the questionable letter as there has been a statement from Mark that Ryan was charged more than the usual $350.00 fee for such a service, about $750-$2000 was his guess. Why would the fee be so much extra and why Dan won't address this question?

Joel, I think I know why Dan is not responding to you regarding the authentication fees. Mears, PSA, Meigray and other authenticators have a pricing scale when it comes to high end items.

Here is PSA's pricing scale: http://www.psacard.com/Fees/Autographs#batfees

Here is Mears' pricing scale: http://www.mearsonline.com/index.php...valuation-fees

Here is Meigray's pricing scale: http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/serv...D=$catParentID


Mark mentioned that Dan has a "standard" pricing for authentication/autographs. A potential rookie Kobe Bryant game used jersey is not a "standard" item. This is a high end, potentially high value item that he would have been authenticating. Don't you think Dan has every right to increase his authentication fees, based on other authenticators pricing scales? I'm thinking your witchhunt with regards to his increase in the authentication fees is going to go nowhere.

[Takuleechch]

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A problem with this hobby is that faith is placed in certain individuals hands and when it is exposed that their operation may not be what they have made the world believe over many years people who had items from such a company then get defensive and make claims defending the authenticator and their practice.

That's not really fair cause every auction house makes and continues to make mistakes. Grey flannel, heritage, Goldins it's just how it goes. You support psa and they make mistakes too. It's everyone's right to defend just as much as it is to attack if something's wrong.
I'm looking forward to hearing from Dan and Ryan though

[jmeekins33]

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A problem with this hobby is that faith is placed incertain individuals hands and when it is exposed that their operation may notbe what they have made the world believe over many years people who had itemsfrom such a company then get defensive and make claims defending theauthenticator and their practice.

I can only comment on my experiences with DC Sports. I have found that Dan looks at outside items with a very skeptical eye. If you want to accuse me of "getting defensive" for sharing my experience then so be it.

[trsent]

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I respectfully disagree.

I've done business with DC Sports before and I've found Dan to be a man with a lot of integrity. A mistake was made but I don't think it goes any deeper than that.

A problem with this hobby is that faith is placed in certain individuals hands and when it is exposed that their operation may not be what they have made the world believe over many years people who had items from such a company then get defensive and make claims defending the authenticator and their practice.

I do not believe this is an isolated case - Dan came on here and stated he just started taking 3rd party items for authentication and when I questioned him about it he ignored the question which was don't you take 3rd party authentications for auction houses so this wouldn't be the first case someone sent him an item that he wrote a letter claiming it came from a secret and special inside Lakers source but really it was a send in from an outside source.

The autograph, which I have asked if Dan has Kobe's cell phone number to call him when someone sends in a jersey that he is able to obtain in less than a 40 day window, has been called out as not being authentic and he doesn't respond to this question.

Dan has ignored my question how much he charged Ryan for the authentication and autograph on the questionable letter as there has been a statement from Mark that Ryan was charged more than the usual $350.00 fee for such a service, about $750-$2000 was his guess. Why would the fee be so much extra and why Dan won't address this question?

Dan knows about this thread. He has posted in this thread. I was told he texted Ryan telling Ryan that he has ruined his reputation. I have emailed Dan and he has ignored it.

Why doesn't he man up and give full disclosure to all questions asked of him to prove this was an isolated incident? Instead he has gone into a shell which doesn't help clear his name. It raises questions about his practices which has me and others very concerned.

[jmeekins33]

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I don't collect Lakers anything but I can tell you if I ever do, I know where I WON'T be getting my jersey(s) from.

I respectfully disagree.

I've done business with DC Sports before and I've found Dan to be a man with a lot of integrity. A mistake was made but I don't think it goes any deeper than that.

[Takuleechch]

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I don't trust Mark so I'm sure the story goes deeper with him.
The email you posted from Ryan re getting names changed shows he's sketchy and Dan is probably doing some pretty big damage control lol

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Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers

The heat has been turned up to an all time high......

This thread has it all to make a great book.

I can't wait to see the ending.

Well, it's about 5PM Central and Mark replied to my email (I had to send it again to another email address as the email I sent it to it was returned undeliverable) and told me he will no longer be posting on Game Used Universe.

Ryan and Dan have ignored the email. If you are a trusted public figure and you are found to make a huge error authentication with a questionable autograph I would think you would take the time to respond to questions from the masses instead of avoiding the thread and my personal email.

These questions will not go away by ignoring them but by ignoring them it makes the situation look more and more as if there was something that is being hid about the whole circle of events.

[Samets]

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This thread has it all to make a great book.

I can't wait to see the ending.

[sportsnbikes]

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I don't collect Lakers anything but I can tell you if I ever do, I know where I WON'T be getting my jersey(s) from.

[DoctorLoomis]

Re: Altered Kobe Bryant Pro-Cut Jersey Being Advertised on eBay with D. C. Sports LOA as Game Used Rookie Jers

The heat has been turned up to an all time high......