The Response I got from X Bats

[gameused]

Re: The Response I got from X Bats

Good for you...but you seem to want to dodge the real issue that I present....and then you won't copy and paste the aledged email you got from X Bats...Gee, I wonder why. e-mail I got from X-bats is posted below! Happy now?

The real issue is that X Bats clearly will make the same bat as they ship to the Pro's to the General public with the same label and markings for a price of $95.00 + shipping. How do you know this for sure? I know that was the case a few years back, but now X-bats being sold to the public with pro players names are labeled with "Pro Trophy" Once again your not speaking from fact, only fantasy!!

Could it be that you don't want this out of the bag as it may hurt the value of some of your bats that may or may not be the real deal? I own just two X-bats in my collection both are Manny Ramirez gamers, one is signed by him and exhibits perfect Manny game use traits, the other I purchased directly from John Taube and comes with the PSA/DNA cert. I would bet my entire collection that both bats are the real deal!

I love the deflection tactics you use...the mark of a real pro. Are you talking about yourself? You seem to jump from one topic to another and the links you provided made no sense at all: UDA Pujols bat, Ortiz non game used bat on ebay, etc! I suggest you go back and proofread before you post!

I already stated that I'm not an expert in Bat's, but I take it you are? I'm not an expert , but when it comes to players I collect I would say I'm well educated as to what types of bats they swing and the game use traits they should exhibit!

I love how you defend X Bats and the impish behavior of their employee(s) cause they make great bats...so do over a dozen other makers and I bet they readily provide anyone who has a legitimate inquiry an answer. I never once defended the behavior of the employee you conversed with. I only stated what my experience has been with them and that was great!

You clearly are not a nice person, but I really don't want to make this a personal thing as you clearly are. You presented the topic on this forum and I responded. I posted what I was told by X-bats on the topic of WS bats on their website and you continued to make false claims to whats being sold on their site without real "Facts" or evidence! Hey nothing personal, but once again thanks for the good laugh you provided!

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Heres the copy of the e-mail that I sent to X-bats, minus my e-mail address which I removed as I used my business e-mail:

We know which is which. All Pro Player bats are identical but have Pro Trophy on them instead of Pro Maple.


on 11/11/07 12:16 AM, Robert wrote:

I was looking at your website and noticed that you are offering 2007 World Series bats. How do you distinguish a store model bat from a pro player world series game used bat. The reason I'm asking is that anyone can take one of these bats and make them look as if they were used in a pro game and sell them on the open market. What steps are you taking to prevent this?

Thanks, Robert

[bigjimsguitars]

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Bobby...

I give up and you all can buy all the F'g X Bats you want. It's too bad there are a few on this forum that seem to be so negative.....

[bigjimsguitars]

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Bobby...

I will make you this wager...I can order any friggin Name Player Bat from them and get it delivered to me labeled and logo'd exactly the same as what they give to the pro's....

Are you willing to take that wager?

[BMH]

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Bobby...

I will make you this wager...I can order any friggin Name Player Bat from them and get it delivered to me labeled and logo'd exactly the same as what they give to the pro's....

Are you willing to take that wager?

I would make that call to them as soon as possible to get your bat. X-bat is about to have a bad day since we have exclusive rights to the MLB team names on bats.

That's why you see companies start to put the team names on bats then stop after a while. They get nasty letters from our lawyers.

[bigjimsguitars]

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I would make that call to them as soon as possible to get your bat. X-bat is about to have a bad day since we have exclusive rights to the MLB team names on bats.

That's why you see companies start to put the team names on bats then stop after a while. They get nasty letters from our lawyers.

Thanks for the info...

I'm not talking about the WS Bats with respect to the proposed wager, I am referring to the standard Pro Model bats that don't carry a team name.

I did an order form with a star players name on it and did everything but pay for it and my order would have been filled and it would have been only $95.00 + Shipping....the Trophy Model will set you back $135.00 + shipping.

There is no doubt in my mind that they are all about getting the $$$ and it doesn't matter where it comes from.

Again, I'm not an expert on WS Bats and have never seen a Game Used X Bat...and would really be curious as to what one that has been photo-matched looks like....

I was all wet with regard LS WS bats, but that won't be the first shoot first and die....

[cigarman44]

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Am I wrong but dont all SAM bats have team names on them?

[gameused]

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Bobby...

I will make you this wager...I can order any friggin Name Player Bat from them and get it delivered to me labeled and logo'd exactly the same as what they give to the pro's....

Are you willing to take that wager?

I'm all for it on the following conditions:

You order a bat of a "pro MLB player" of my choice....not any "friggin" name player, are you trying to pull a fast one on me and just order a "John Doe" bat? Those I believe would come with the "Pro Maple" brand.

The bat is shipped directly to me from X-bats. When the bat arrives I will post pics on the forum. If the pro player bat you ordered is not identical in every aspect to the pro player X-bat I have photos of from 2007, I win the bet.

Are you "man" enough to accept these conditions?

[bigjimsguitars]

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I'm all for it on the following conditions:

You order a bat of a "pro MLB player" of my choice....not any "friggin" name player, are you trying to pull a fast one on me and just order a "John Doe" bat? Those I believe would come with the "Pro Maple" brand.

The bat is shipped directly to me from X-bats. When the bat arrives I will post pics on the forum. If the pro player bat you ordered is not identical in every aspect to the pro player X-bat I have photos of from 2007, I win the bet.

Are you "man" enough to accept these conditions?

Sounds like you want to control this too...are you man enough for me to order the bat with the name of my choosing and I will personally post the pictures along with the receipt? The real issue is how it will be labelled and logo'd so the name of the player is not material as it doesn't have to match your bat, only that it will not have trophy on it as opposed to Pro as per your contentions and what X Bats told you.

SO ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH FOR THAT?

[bigjimsguitars]

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Just to clarify it...It will be a Major League Players name and not a made up name as you contend....

I don't want you to know the name I will be selecting as you could easily tip someone off at X Bats and that wouldn't be fair would it, get my drift?

The bet is that I can order a bat with Major League Players Name on it and get it to me with PRO Maple on it and not Trophy Maple...in simple terms, the same bat that player would have gotten if he had ordered it!

So are you MAN enough!!!

[ironmanfan]

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SO ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH FOR THAT?[/quote]

Am I only one that thinks this post has gone way too far?

[grandpahoo]

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Am I only one that thinks this post has gone way too far?

The whole debate has been retarded.

[mvandor]

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Am I only one that thinks this post has gone way too far?

I think the bet is a very fair way to settle the difference of opinion, and would produce results beneficial to the forum membership.

[bigjimsguitars]

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I think the bet is a very fair way to settle the difference of opinion, and would produce results beneficial to the forum membership.

In that vein, I will order a bat from them, in-spite of the fact I dislike the company and will upon receipt of it, either eat crow or as you put it for the betterment of the forum to have exposed X Bats for selling the exact same bat as they do to the pro's to the general public.

[bigtruck260]

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In that vein, I will order a bat from them, in-spite of the fact I dislike the company and will upon receipt of it, either eat crow or as you put it for the betterment of the forum to have exposed X Bats for selling the exact same bat as they do to the pro's to the general public.

While we are at it - can the same be said of X-Bat ordering? Just curious.
A little childish in some posts, but the point has been made. I would guess that there are some replica bats out there with Pro Maple on them. I am almost positive I have seen them in the past. Especially since there are individuals who order privately that may share the same name as major league players. I would be interested in the results of the "bat bet".

Dave

[bigtruck260]

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While we are at it - can the same be said of X-Bat ordering?

Dave

I actually meant MAX bat. They seem to be willing to put names on barrels too...