Greed in this hobby

[MSpecht]

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Thanks to all who posted on this thread. Some interesting thoughts but it has pretty much run its course and will be locked. Thanks for the autograph link, that was cool.....

To finish this up by paraphrasing Mark17 and Frik:

"There ain't no luggage racks on a hearse."

Mike jackitout7@aol.com

[Phil316]

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Correct user I'd is jerseys4thewin

[Phil316]

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I knew something was up with Jersey4thewin. He is obviously shill bidding as I suspected. This might deserve its own thread.

[otismalibu]

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http://www.projerseytalk.com/nba-jersey-talk/re-nba-jersey-pickups-vol-1/

[cohibasmoker]

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I have no problem at all with this. Someone didn't do their research. I probably would've done the same thing.

A "Lucky" "Greedy" "Capitalist" - how dare that Seller make a profit. (LOL)

Jim

[MLB~NUT]

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To be honest, with some of these people, it is pure greed. They have to have everything of a certain player or team, and it looks like their mommies never taught them how to share. In a word, they are not collectors but hoarders.

And those dealer types who just swoop up an item to flip drive me crazy. Especially when I wanted that item as a collector. Yeah, I have picked up an item or two for investment purposes, but the majority of my collection is for my enjoyment. And I guess that a lot of us collectors are in the same boat.



As you should be. Sadly, connections, favoritism, and backdoor dealing dominate this hobby. People often benefit more from whom they know, rather than who they are and their character. It's the sorry state of this hobby and the reason why a lot of people are getting out.

The constant competition, the whose collection is bigger mentality drives me - and others like me - away from the hobby. It's as if some of these people believe that they are better, because of what they own. But you can't go into the grave with your collections; people are ultimately remembered, because of their character. If this is any consolation...

Agreed...

[sportsnbikes]

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An example of a dealer finding an opportunity and flipping for a huge profit. Say what you want about jerseys4thewin, but I would have done the same thing as he did, but I was like 30 minutes too late to the original auction. jerseys4thewin beat me to it.

Original seller didn't fully know the value of the item and offered this 1970 Phillies game used flannel for $70 Buy It Now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-vintage-Phillies-44-Game-Used-Worn-HomeJersey-/290925573923?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43bc83f723&nma=true&si=83toTNgxKqvq82YFhQuuY437%252F28%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

jerseys4thewin sold it for $1275 (over a 1800% return).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GAME-USED-WORN-JOHNNY-BRIGGS-PHILADELPHIA-PHILLIES-1970-WILSON-JERSEY-SET-2-RARE-/140996359328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d409b4a0&nma=true&si=83toTNgxKqvq82YFhQuuY437%252F28%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Just someone taking advantage of an opportunity. Nothing greedy about it.

I have no problem at all with this. Someone didn't do their research. I probably would've done the same thing.

[kudu]

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Off topic of "greed " but cobain did use the "kurtdt" spelling from time to time. Maybe the seller is smarter than you think. Check the back of nirvana's bleach cd.

Smarter? He still spelled the "misspelling" wrong. Cobain should be "Kobain". LOL. Why would you purposely misspell someones name like that? You would lose out on a lot of potential buyers who know him as Kurt Cobain, right? Anyway, here's I little info I found on his misspelled name:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/profiles/blogs/attaining-nirvana

Sorry for the derail.

[kellsox]

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LOL, not to mention the seller needs to learn how to spell "Kurdt Cobain".

Having read this thread, I can't help but think of a great quote from Bill Murray:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrCEhRNgGHY

Off topic of "greed " but cobain did use the "kurtdt" spelling from time to time. Maybe the seller is smarter than you think. Check the back of nirvana's bleach cd.

[kudu]

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To bring this full circle, the guy in question (the original post) hasn't made a sale since April 1st looking at his completed listings.

It is now June 30th.

Perspective, fellas.

LOL, not to mention the seller needs to learn how to spell "Kurdt Cobain".

Having read this thread, I can't help but think of a great quote from Bill Murray:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrCEhRNgGHY

[ChuckFoPrez]

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To bring this full circle, the guy in question (the original post) hasn't made a sale since April 1st looking at his completed listings.

It is now June 30th.

Perspective, fellas.

[hairyangryfella]

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Bottom line, there is GREED everywhere. But for you to have GREED, you need to have FUNDS to back it up. You CANT talk about GREED without funds and when you do, it is just all ENVY and JEALOUSY in my book.

Relating to the guy I was referring to on ebay, there is only 1 item he bought that I would even want, out of the many many others, so it's really not jealousy at all - just an observation on human nature I guess.

[hairyangryfella]

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Maybe the government should set up a program for those wishing to have high end game used items but not priveledged enough to obtain them.

Seriously... this post is relevant how??

[worldchamps]

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Maybe the government should set up a program for those wishing to have high end game used items but not priveledged enough to obtain them.

[cohibasmoker]

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Of course, luck has everything to do with it. The people who work sixteen hours a day can do it, because of fortuitous circumstances. There was the family who financed or at least helped pay for their education, the coworkers who mentored them, the role models who brought a sense of stability. From the time they were kids, many had the personal and financial supports to succeed.

But some people don't have that, and they are less likely to make it in the fiercely competitive world of American capitalism. Take the kid who lives in the inner cities, who sees his friends succumb to gang violence or drugs. While I'm not saying that he cannot get ahead, he has a host of challenges to worry about that the aforementioned individuals don't. He can't pay for the finest colleges and the tutors that the rich can afford. He may not even have up-to-date textbooks.

Mom and Dad may be in prison. His sister may have been killed, due to gun violence, and he may have ceaselessly been bullied. If he is fortunate enough to have a shot at college, the schools may not meet his demonstrated financial need. If he falls ill or becomes depressed, he may not have the insurance to get adequate help. None of us succeeds in a vacuum; there are a whole host of people and circumstances that worked to our benefit.



Who in our society stays home and doesn't work? The people I know who stay at home do as such because they aren't physically or mentally capable of having a job. You seriously mean to imply that such individuals - the disabled, broadly speaking - are lucky?

Luck has little to do with – its called hard work and sacrifice. One has to put one in a position so “luck” can come their way. I guess the person who gets drunk and then gets behind a wheel of a car and arrested for drunk driving has bad luck? The folks I know are who they are because their family worked their way up to a decent way of life. Instead of sitting at home playing video games,they went to school and after school, spent the rest of their day working atthe family business.

Why people don’t have so-called “luck” isn’t society’s fault – it’s the individual family’s fault. As a for example, 72% ofblack kids are raised in a family without a Father – how is that Society’s or George Bush's fault? You write, they don’t have equal opportunities, well that’s not really true because there are a plethora of Federal programs out there. By the way,middle-income folks do NOT qualify for the below programs because they work and earn too much money.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-womens_health/t/blacks-struggle-percent-unwed-mothers-rate/

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/federalbenefitprograms/tp/toptenbenefits.htm

No-One has taken advantage of the system more than Obama – a black male from a broken home, born out of wedlock and still, went to the finest schools and became President. What’s everyone else’s excuse?

In closing, I live on the east-coast and the other day, I stayed up to the wee hours of the morning to try and win an auction. I finally did win it so I guess "I'm lucky? And, if I sell it for profit, I'm Greedy?