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  • Vintagedeputy
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3172

    #46
    Re: I'm so darn mad!

    bigtruck - I think you may have misunderstood. In my example, there was no bid in place. The item had virtually run its course. On the last day of the auction, I contacted the seller and there were still no bids. A few hours after we had an agreement, bids started coming in. If there was already a bid, I wouldnt have bothered contacting the seller and would have placed a bid myself.

    Jim

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    • TFig27
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 1214

      #47
      Re: I'm so darn mad!

      can a seller end an auction in the last 24 hours?
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      • Vintagedeputy
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3172

        #48
        Re: I'm so darn mad!

        I think that you can end an auction anytime by saying that the item is no longer available.

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        • TFig27
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 1214

          #49
          Re: I'm so darn mad!

          here is what ebay says:

          Timing Matters
          When there are 12 hours or less remaining and the item has a winning bid, including a reserve met bid, sellers cannot make any changes to the listing, including:
          • <LI style="MARGIN-TOP: 6px">Ending the item early. Sellers may cancel bids, but not end the item unless the item is being sold to the high bidder.
          • Adding to or changing the item description.
          did it have a bid on it with 12 hours to go?
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          A. Boone - R. Cano - N. Swisher - T. Martinez - P. O'Neill - E. Hinske
          J. Damon - R. Brogna - D. Bragg - W. Upshaw - K. Farnsworth

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          • Vintagedeputy
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 3172

            #50
            Re: I'm so darn mad!

            The first bid wasnt placed until a few hours before it ended.

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            • b.heagy
              Senior Member
              • May 2006
              • 1263

              #51
              Re: I'm so darn mad!

              I was the high bidder on two items (at different times) from the same seller. The first item had a few bids, the other had only mine. The seller ended both auctions early, one was promised to be relisted later but I never saw it. I no longer bid on that sellers auctions - I don't care how bad I want the item. That seller lost a customer.
              Bill Heagy
              heagysports.com
              Go Phillies !

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              • bigtruck260
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 1729

                #52
                Re: I'm so darn mad!

                Originally posted by Vintagedeputy
                bigtruck - I think you may have misunderstood. In my example, there was no bid in place. The item had virtually run its course. On the last day of the auction, I contacted the seller and there were still no bids. A few hours after we had an agreement, bids started coming in. If there was already a bid, I wouldnt have bothered contacting the seller and would have placed a bid myself.

                Jim

                No - I understood you, and don't really have any problem with what you did. I was just chiming in rather than start another thread. If there are no bids, never hurts to make an offer.

                Dave
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                • bigtruck260
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1729

                  #53
                  Re: I'm so darn mad!

                  Originally posted by b.heagy
                  I was the high bidder on two items (at different times) from the same seller. The first item had a few bids, the other had only mine. The seller ended both auctions early, one was promised to be relisted later but I never saw it. I no longer bid on that sellers auctions - I don't care how bad I want the item. That seller lost a customer.

                  This is where I stand as well...
                  Dave
                  Looking for 1990's STL Cardinal starting pitcher's bats
                  River City Redbird Authentics
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                  • NYRangers
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 265

                    #54
                    Re: I'm so darn mad!

                    Of course, you can do whatever you feel is right but you can't pretend that no bids mean no interest by other collectors. Do you personally wait until the end of an auction to bid rather than run the price up in advance of the auction end? If so, then you must know that your off-line dealings are screwing others who do the same. Do you use auction sniping services on ebay? If so, again, you are screwing others who use these services as a last-second bid. Ebay is not a classified ad. I hope to hear more "bad experience" stories from those who treat it that way.

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                    • Vintagedeputy
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3172

                      #55
                      Re: I'm so darn mad!

                      Originally posted by NYRangers
                      Of course, you can do whatever you feel is right but you can't pretend that no bids mean no interest by other collectors. Do you personally wait until the end of an auction to bid rather than run the price up in advance of the auction end? If so, then you must know that your off-line dealings are screwing others who do the same. Do you use auction sniping services on ebay? If so, again, you are screwing others who use these services as a last-second bid. Ebay is not a classified ad. I hope to hear more "bad experience" stories from those who treat it that way.
                      I'm sure that there may have been others interested, but if there's no other bids, then there are no other bids. Yes I use snipe services, and with a great degree of success. Sometimes I just try to wrap the item up with a higher degree of certainty by emailing the seller. If you dont agree with my buying practices, so be it. Wishing more "bad experiences" on others or saying that you are happy that my deal fell through just makes you sound bitter.

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                      • NYRangers
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 265

                        #56
                        Re: I'm so darn mad!

                        Oh, I sound "bitter" to you? Now I'm crushed. It matters terribly to me what I sound like to you given your high self-interested morals. You came on here bragging how you break the auction rules on ebay but claim no harm-no foul because no bids had been made (this time). Do as you wish. But don't pretend that others who follow the rules aren't getting screwed.

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                        • Vintagedeputy
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3172

                          #57
                          Re: I'm so darn mad!

                          I didnt come here "bragging about how I break auction rules". I came here to vent that an agreement fell through. As you have seen here, many other members all have admitted that they too, in the past, have emailed sellers in an attempt to purchase an item directly. Its something that we all do. You seem to want make me out to be some moral degenerate because I try to persuade a seller to sell an item directly to me. If following the ebay rules make you feel better about yourself and assure you of a good place in the hereafter, so be it.

                          You know, I was looking at a Robinson Cano rookie bat on ebay. The bat started to get some bids and I was contemplating how much I might bid for it. When I just checked it, the seller ended the auction early. What do you think happened there? Did the bat disappear? No, someone made him an offer offline and he sold it. Am I upset? No, that's the way the game is played. Sometimes its not about how much you offer for an item but how and when you make the offer.

                          Maybe you should find out who bought the Cano bat so that you can start a new thread and push your self-righteous ebay moral agenda on them.

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                          • NYRangers
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 265

                            #58
                            Re: I'm so darn mad!

                            I know, rules are for suckers.
                            This thread (started by you, I only chimed in later) is loaded with you bragging about your brilliant system.
                            You (and others) are screwing other collectors by short-cutting the auction route.
                            You said it best, ebay is your personal classified ads.
                            I'm done with this thread.
                            Have a nice life.

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                            • Vintagedeputy
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3172

                              #59
                              Re: I'm so darn mad!

                              Well, I'm glad that's over (whew!).

                              Good riddance.

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                              • steeltownjerseys
                                Member
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 31

                                #60
                                Re: I'm so darn mad!

                                I find it interesting that this is such a discussion...Ebay is an auction site, If you want something bid....if you don't want to pay that price, wait until the auction ends and contact the seller to make an offer.
                                I can't believe you are questioning the integrity of a seller that actually did it the correct way!

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