O/T: H&B liable for player's death

[frikativ54]

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I'll think I'll sue God

Best idea of the thread.

[treant985]

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Just a random thought about product warnings: I think we'll eventually have warnings on pretty much every single thing you could buy. The irony is that, with warnings on everything, nobody will ever read ANY of them.

Thus, we end up in the same situation we were 50 years ago: your ability to avoid dangerous items depends solely on your knowledge and ability to pick out what's dangerous and what's not.

[treant985]

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Hey, not so fast...as long as it's open season to sue anyone for any reason, with my kidney problems, heart pacemaker, tourette syndrome meds, sunken sternum, and badly swollen right arm, I'll think I'll sue God because He didn't make me a superjock.

Dave M.
Chicago area

I recall hearing of a case about 2 yrs ago where a woman sued God because lightning struck a tree and it landed on her house. Since the defendant never showed up, the woman won automatically, but I'd guess she hasn't collected any money yet...

[treant985]

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I don't see how a warning label would make a difference, and thus I can't say that the jury made an informed legal decision. They didn't bother to see if all the legal requirements were met. They saw this permuted view of the world: a young man died; a corporation could be sued; corporations always have lots of money and insurance; thus, $800K is worth a lot more to the plaintiffs than H&B.

As I take it, frik's logic is like this: baseball bats are designed to hit baseballs hard, so when they achieve this--but to a dangerous level--then the company should be responsible. I guess it'd be like saying that knives are designed to cut, but some knife is made so dangerously that it could cut a hand off in 2/5 of a second.

Most people don't buy this argument because most people recognize the inherant danger in knives (and baseball bats). The question for me would be whether the product is a latently dangerous item--that is, it appears to be like all other bats but somehow is much more dangerous. I doubt H&B's bat is of such danger that it could rise to that level.

If the plaintiffs are truly concerned with their cause, they will donate their money to charity.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Wow, in my haste to not "time out" my typos are getting bad

last post......"unsurb" = ubsurd

"intabgibles" = intangibles

Let's try this one last time.....

unsurb = absurd ..........like my spelling!

[Capital-Sports]

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But you obviously have some serious issues other than a thyroid problem. You have "reasoning" problems.

LOL...+3

geez after reading some of this thread, I need a beer

[Fnazxc0114]

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if thats the case i think a lot of us need to jump in on your lawsuit.

Hey, not so fast...as long as it's open season to sue anyone for any reason, with my kidney problems, heart pacemaker, tourette syndrome meds, sunken sternum, and badly swollen right arm, I'll think I'll sue God because He didn't make me a superjock.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[sox83cubs84]

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But you obviously have some serious issues other than a thyroid problem. You have "reasoning" problems.

LOL...+1

Make it +2.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[nomo121]

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I think I am going to sue Hostess because all of the twinkies over the years I've eaten have made me fat. The fatness has most assuredly slowed me down. One day when I get hit by a car and I'm killed, my wife can argue that if I hadnt been fat, I could have gotten out of the way. Then she can sue the car maker for making their cars too fast, the metal company for making the metals too hard, the city for making the roads too smooth and anyone else that has no defense for making products to a high standard as they are supposed to.

Tom,
If this works, let me know. I want to start a class action suit. I have a ton of evidence...

[sox83cubs84]

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Hey, not so fast...as long as it's open season to sue anyone for any reason, with my kidney problems, heart pacemaker, tourette syndrome meds, sunken sternum, and badly swollen right arm, I'll think I'll sue God because He didn't make me a superjock.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[MiLe HigH]

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But you obviously have some serious issues other than a thyroid problem. You have "reasoning" problems.

LOL...+1

[suicide_squeeze]

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Wow, in my haste to not "time out" my typos are getting bad

last post......"unsurb" = ubsurd

"intabgibles" = intangibles

[suicide_squeeze]

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BMH,

On a serious note, and hopefully a positive one, I would recommend you copy and print this entire thread for your attorneys. I think if it were handed to the judge in the appellate court, and was reviewed by all the competent parties involved, your verdict would be overturned, and the case thrown out.


This whole case is absolute proof that there are serious deficiencies in the jury system. I'm sure Brian is just sick over the fact that he has been victimized by a group of morons who have the cognitive reasoning abilities of a "frik".

There is a lot more than a "difference of opinion" involved here. It isn't even a case of seeing the trees through the forrest. It's a case of not having the developmental skills to reason out what is right or wrong. It's a case of a bunch of weak people making a wrong judgement which was based on pure emotion, a group who let reality and the magnitude of this tragedy twist their thinking from that of a normal reasonable person who is in control of their faculties.

Frik, your rediculous assessment of the "facts" of this situation are troubling on so many levels. HOW in the WORLD can a bat manufacturer develope a bat that would take into account all of the "intabgibles" of every single possible outcome of a pitch???

The pitchers strength...

The batters strength....

The fact that the pitcher was medicated on that day...

The fact that the pitcher was "tired" after partying the night before into the wee hours with his girlfriend...

The fact the batter was "sitting on that very pitch, and he got it!"...

Like Chris, earlier, I could go on and on. Your pathetically un-thought-out conclusion that H & B should have ANY responsibility is, as some has mentioned here, including myself, unsurb beyond all reasoning. I'm sorry, but I do think you're a whack job. And unfortunately, your kind ended up on that jury.

Brian,if what that poster on USA today said is true, and the floor person tried to persuade with pressure other jurors to come to see his view, you may have a mistrial. Other jurors statements could reveal that. I would do anything and everything to fight the verdict here. It is flat out wrong, and we all, save one, feel your pain. Good luck, please let us know how it goes. I homestly can't believe that you will receive anything other than complete justice in an appellate court which would be the overturning of this rediculous and emotionally irresponsible verdict.

Regards,

Steve

[GarkoCollector]

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I think I am going to sue Hostess because all of the twinkies over the years I've eaten have made me fat. The fatness has most assuredly slowed me down. One day when I get hit by a car and I'm killed, my wife can argue that if I hadnt been fat, I could have gotten out of the way. Then she can sue the car maker for making their cars too fast, the metal company for making the metals too hard, the city for making the roads too smooth and anyone else that has no defense for making products to a high standard as they are supposed to.

[cohibasmoker]

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These are totally unrelated scenarios. All of these household objects have other uses besides murdering people. If someone beat his wife over the head with a baseball bat, then I would not hold the company responsible. However, baseball bats' primary purpose is to hit balls with. This comes with considerable danger. When the primary purpose of your product puts people in harm's way, which baseball bats do, then you have a problem. Therefore, H & B needs to be held liable and needs to create a safer product.

Hey Frik, how about snow skis? Their primary purpose is to ski down a mountain on slippery snow and ice. I wonder how many people are injured and/or killed each year due to skiing accidents?

Gee, I bet Riddell executives aren't sleeping too soundly after the H&B verdict.

Jim