May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

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  • danesei@yahoo.com
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 1018

    #61
    Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

    Originally posted by dangerzone79
    Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.
    Interesting shoes. I'm not even sure of "how" that would be done with Sharpie pens, due to the shading. Looks more like airbrush, IMO. Either way, I would think they're illegal, since the images used are copyrighted.

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    • DJaeger22
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 478

      #62
      Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

      Dangerzone, those shoes look amazing! Whoever does them has an amazing talent. Who is the artist that does them?
      Always looking for anything John Flaherty, Drew Storen and Marcell Ozuna game used.
      jaeger_danny@yahoo.com

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      • dangerzone79
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 362

        #63
        Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

        The artist name is Rob St Clair. Here's a link to his Facebook page if anyone is interested.

        Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


        And they're aren't illegal shoes. It's a commissioned piece of artwork. They're not sold in stores. The guy does it as a hobby from what I gather. They're 100% done with Sharpie. That's his whole gimmick.

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        • Dach0sen0ne
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 872

          #64
          Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

          Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.
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          • danesei@yahoo.com
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 1018

            #65
            Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

            Originally posted by dangerzone79
            The artist name is Rob St Clair. Here's a link to his Facebook page if anyone is interested.

            Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.


            And they're aren't illegal shoes. It's a commissioned piece of artwork. They're not sold in stores. The guy does it as a hobby from what I gather. They're 100% done with Sharpie. That's his whole gimmick.
            Unless Mr St Clair received permission from Hillerich & Bradsby, at least one of the images used for the shoes was done so in violation of copyright law. I'd assume none of the images used were done with permission of the copyright owners, so I sustain that they're illegal. I'm not saying the shoes themselves are knockoffs or something similar. I'm saying that the use of copyrighted property without permission of the copyright owner would be deemed illegal. It's a good thing he hasn't chosen to do any images of "Prince" or "The Artist" or "'The Artist,' formerly known as 'Prince'" -- I'm pretty sure he'd be receiving cease and desist notices, in that case.

            Yes, I think the shoes look cool, and if that was done all in Sharpie (the fine point, not the ultra fine) pens, then that's even cooler. However, coolness and cache aside, the issue of copyright remains, regardless.

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            • danesei@yahoo.com
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 1018

              #66
              Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

              Come to think of it, the Red Sox reproduction would likely be without consent, as well, and therefore also in violation of their trademark rights.

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              • Phil316
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 1878

                #67
                Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                Originally posted by dangerzone79
                Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.
                Sweet kicks !

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                • dangerzone79
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 362

                  #68
                  Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                  Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
                  Come to think of it, the Red Sox reproduction would likely be without consent, as well, and therefore also in violation of their trademark rights.
                  So someone can't do a painting of Ted Williams holding an H&B bat, or a painting of a Red Sox logo and give it to someone as a gift without fear of being prosecuted by either company? Even if that may be accurate, who cares? The artist wouldn't care about a cease & desist anyways because these are a complete one-off. I appreciate your point & concern, but I'm not worried. The Sox know how to get a hold of me if they have a problem.

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                  • GoTigers
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 629

                    #69
                    Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                    That's incorrect... You think Campbell's sued Andy Warhol? Artists can do what they want. Daniel Moore has been sued by Alabama for painting "greatest moments" for years, with logos etc. and selling prints. The university keeps loosing and looking stupid.

                    Thanks,
                    Jimmy

                    Email:
                    jamesbrandt24 at yahoo.com

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                    • Sotystl
                      Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 73

                      #70
                      Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                      Originally posted by dangerzone79
                      Got this amazing gift the other day. Custom made Ted Williams Converse All-Stars. They are basically works of art. They start as white sneakers & the guy colors them with a Sharpee. Just incredible. 1 of a kind.

                      These are incredible.

                      And is this the place to talk about copyright laws? I thought i was a place to discuss cool pickups, not bs nonfactors.

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                      • calmanagement
                        Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 84

                        #71
                        Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                        Originally posted by Dach0sen0ne
                        Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.
                        Great Rookie gamer Rich!
                        Collecting Miguel Cabrera and Detroit Tigers
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                        • danesei@yahoo.com
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 1018

                          #72
                          Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                          Originally posted by dangerzone79
                          So someone can't do a painting of Ted Williams holding an H&B bat, or a painting of a Red Sox logo and give it to someone as a gift without fear of being prosecuted by either company? Even if that may be accurate, who cares? The artist wouldn't care about a cease & desist anyways because these are a complete one-off. I appreciate your point & concern, but I'm not worried. The Sox know how to get a hold of me if they have a problem.
                          For the H&B part of it, that's not the point. For the Red Sox one, I believe they could be prosecuted, but the Red Sox would be unlikely to do so unless the individual started making more than their attorney fees would be in pursuing the case.

                          Back to the H&B issue. The problem is that the image of DiMaggio kissing the bat is from the H&B archives. H&B (and possibly the photographer, as well) have a right to claim theft of intellectual property.

                          Originally posted by Sotystl
                          And is this the place to talk about copyright laws? I thought i was a place to discuss cool pickups, not bs nonfactors.
                          Theft is theft. Stealing someone's work and profiting from it would be no different than stealing someone's collection and selling it. I don't think it's a "bs nonfactor," as you've chosen to name it.

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                          • dangerzone79
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 362

                            #73
                            Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                            Originally posted by danesei@yahoo.com
                            Come to think of it, the Red Sox reproduction would likely be without consent, as well, and therefore also in violation of their trademark rights.
                            I have a Red Sox tattoo on my wrist... do you think the Sox will drag my tattoo artist into court? No. And yes, this is a place to discuss neat pick-ups & things like that. If you wanna discuss copyrights, maybe we should start a new thread. Interesting convo.

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                            • joetiger83
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 173

                              #74
                              Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                              Originally posted by Dach0sen0ne
                              Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.
                              Great Bat Rich! That thing is hammered awesomeness!

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                              • danesei@yahoo.com
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 1018

                                #75
                                Re: May 2014 "Pick-Ups" Thread

                                Originally posted by Dach0sen0ne
                                Picked up this Jackson Rookie bat from forum member PwKw13. Can't thank Ken enough for a smooth transaction.
                                That's a really nice hammered bat. What does the "1.." stand for?

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